# American mild?

**URL:** <https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/american-mild/29168>\
**Category:** Beer Recipes\
**Created:** [October 1, 2019, 12:05am UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/american-mild/29168 "2019-10-01T00:05:33Z")\
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**Post date:** [October 1, 2019, 12:05am UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/american-mild/29168/1 "2019-10-01T00:05:33Z")

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Hey Denny,  
How’s your quest for an American mild going?

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**Author:** ![denny](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/denny/32/13092_2.png) [@denny](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/denny)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2019, 2:48pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/american-mild/29168/2 "2019-10-01T14:48:34Z")

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> Hey Denny,  
> How’s your quest for an American mild going?

It’s been a year since I brewed one but all I really have left to do is tweak the bitterness level a LITTLE bit.&nbsp; Turns out it was all about finding the right ingredients…Mecca Grade malt, a hefty dose of organic C60, American Noble hops, and WY1450.

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**Author:** ![Robertestein05\_gmail.com](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c4cdca/32.png) [@Robertestein05\_gmail.com](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/Robertestein05_gmail.com)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2019, 2:53pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/american-mild/29168/3 "2019-10-01T14:53:41Z")

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> [@denny](#):
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> > Hey Denny,  
> > How’s your quest for an American mild going?
> 
> It’s been a year since I brewed one but all I really have left to do is tweak the bitterness level a LITTLE bit.&nbsp; Turns out it was all about finding the right ingredients…Mecca Grade malt, a hefty dose of organic C60, American Noble hops, and WY1450.

1450? Really?&nbsp; Didn’t see that coming. ;D

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**Author:** ![rookie\_l\_a](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/rookie_l_a/32/19_2.png) [@rookie\_l\_a](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/rookie_l_a)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2019, 4:50pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/american-mild/29168/4 "2019-10-01T16:50:02Z")

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> [@denny](#):
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> > Hey Denny,  
> > How’s your quest for an American mild going?
> 
> It’s been a year since I brewed one but all I really have left to do is tweak the bitterness level a LITTLE bit.&nbsp; Turns out it was all about finding the right ingredients…Mecca Grade malt, a hefty dose of organic C60, American Noble hops, and WY1450.

Mecca Grade base and specialty malts or is the C60 the only non base malt?

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**Author:** ![denny](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/denny/32/13092_2.png) [@denny](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/denny)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2019, 4:55pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/american-mild/29168/5 "2019-10-01T16:55:49Z")

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> > [@denny](#):
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> > > Hey Denny,  
> > > How’s your quest for an American mild going?
> > 
> > It’s been a year since I brewed one but all I really have left to do is tweak the bitterness level a LITTLE bit.&nbsp; Turns out it was all about finding the right ingredients…Mecca Grade malt, a hefty dose of organic C60, American Noble hops, and WY1450.
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> Mecca Grade base and specialty malts or is the C60 the only non base malt?

Mecca Grade Pamonta and Metolius…their versions of pale/pale ale and Munich. C60 is Briess…I’ve found their organic C60 is really nice.

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**Author:** ![denny](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/denny/32/13092_2.png) [@denny](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/denny)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2019, 4:56pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/american-mild/29168/6 "2019-10-01T16:56:48Z")

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> > [@denny](#):
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> > > [@](#):
> > >
> > > Hey Denny,  
> > > How’s your quest for an American mild going?
> > 
> > It’s been a year since I brewed one but all I really have left to do is tweak the bitterness level a LITTLE bit.&nbsp; Turns out it was all about finding the right ingredients…Mecca Grade malt, a hefty dose of organic C60, American Noble hops, and WY1450.
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> 1450? Really?&nbsp; Didn’t see that coming. ;D

Yeah, whoda think?&nbsp; 😁I use it for at least 75% of what I make, including cider.

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**Author:** ![HopDen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/hopden/32/11576_2.png) [@HopDen](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/HopDen)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2019, 9:26pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/american-mild/29168/7 "2019-10-01T21:26:55Z")

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> [@denny](#):
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> > [@](#):
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> > Hey Denny,  
> > How’s your quest for an American mild going?
> 
> It’s been a year since I brewed one but all I really have left to do is tweak the bitterness level a LITTLE bit.&nbsp; Turns out it was all about finding the right ingredients…Mecca Grade malt, a hefty dose of organic C60, American Noble hops, and WY1450.

Denny, can you expound on why you use organic C60?

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**Author:** ![riceral](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ccd318/32.png) [@riceral](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/riceral)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2019, 11:43pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/american-mild/29168/8 "2019-10-01T23:43:15Z")

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> [@denny](#):
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> > > > Hey Denny,  
> > > > How’s your quest for an American mild going?
> > > 
> > > It’s been a year since I brewed one but all I really have left to do is tweak the bitterness level a LITTLE bit.&nbsp; Turns out it was all about finding the right ingredients…Mecca Grade malt, a hefty dose of organic C60, American Noble hops, and WY1450.
> > 
> > Mecca Grade base and specialty malts or is the C60 the only non base malt?
> 
> Mecca Grade Pamonta and Metolius…their versions of pale/pale ale and Munich. C60 is Briess…I’ve found their organic C60 is really nice.

Ever consider using Mecca Grade’s Opal 44 in place of the C60? Supposed to give a toffee flavor or would that be out of place in the mild? More of a bitter recipe instead?

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**Post date:** [October 2, 2019, 12:22am UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/american-mild/29168/9 "2019-10-02T00:22:18Z")

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> [@denny](#):
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> > > >
> > > > Hey Denny,  
> > > > How’s your quest for an American mild going?
> > > 
> > > It’s been a year since I brewed one but all I really have left to do is tweak the bitterness level a LITTLE bit.&nbsp; Turns out it was all about finding the right ingredients…Mecca Grade malt, a hefty dose of organic C60, American Noble hops, and WY1450.
> > 
> > Mecca Grade base and specialty malts or is the C60 the only non base malt?
> 
> Mecca Grade Pamonta and Metolius…their versions of pale/pale ale and Munich. C60 is Briess…I’ve found their organic C60 is really nice.

How much of each?

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**Post date:** [April 17, 2020, 2:15pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/american-mild/29168/10 "2020-04-17T14:15:17Z")

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I have been exploring an American Mild. Often in English beers invert sugars are used. I was thinking that an American sub for English invert could be corn sugar. Karo makes a dark version that might work. I saw the guys at Basic Brewing used a cpl cups in a mild. Anyone here use Dark Karo?

I was thinking Willamette hops.

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**Post date:** [April 17, 2020, 2:54pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/american-mild/29168/11 "2020-04-17T14:54:25Z")

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> [@BrewBama](#):
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> I have been exploring an American Mild. Often in English beers invert sugars are used. I was thinking that an American sub for English invert could be corn sugar. Karo makes a dark version that might work. I saw the guys at Basic Brewing used a cpl cups in a mild. Anyone here use Dark Karo?
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> I was thinking Willamette hops.
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> Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

I have avoided Karo due to the sodium and vanilla in it.&nbsp; In my quest for an American mild, I found that I needed to get more body into the beer, not less, so for me using any type of sugar wouldn’t be an option.

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**Post date:** [April 17, 2020, 3:12pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/american-mild/29168/12 "2020-04-17T15:12:53Z")

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> [@denny](#):
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> I have avoided Karo due to the sodium and vanilla in it.&nbsp; In my quest for an American mild, I found that I needed to get more body into the beer, not less, so for me using any type of sugar wouldn’t be an option.

I’d be interested to see your latest iteration if you are willing to share

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**Post date:** [April 17, 2020, 3:43pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/american-mild/29168/13 "2020-04-17T15:43:14Z")

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> > I have avoided Karo due to the sodium and vanilla in it.&nbsp; In my quest for an American mild, I found that I needed to get more body into the beer, not less, so for me using any type of sugar wouldn’t be an option.
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> I’d be interested to see your latest iteration if you are willing to share

I’ll have to dig it up later.&nbsp; If I forget, remind me!

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**Post date:** [April 17, 2020, 4:07pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/american-mild/29168/14 "2020-04-17T16:07:29Z")

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> [@denny](#):
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> > > I have avoided Karo due to the sodium and vanilla in it.&nbsp; In my quest for an American mild, I found that I needed to get more body into the beer, not less, so for me using any type of sugar wouldn’t be an option.
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> > I’d be interested to see your latest iteration if you are willing to share
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> No biggie. I remember some posts on it but it’s been a while. I could probably run a search to find more info…  
> I’ll have to dig it up later.&nbsp; If I forget, remind me!

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**Post date:** [April 17, 2020, 5:34pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/american-mild/29168/15 "2020-04-17T17:34:19Z")

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I made one recently and it wasn’t entirely AMERICAN ingredients. It was the first time I used BRY 97. I think it turned out very nice for a 3.7 % ABV beer.  
5 gallon batch  
6 lbs Marris Otter  
.5 lb Crystal 120  
.25 lb Crystal 60  
.25 lb Chocolate  
.5 Oz Chinook @60  
BRY 97  
I might add some later hop additions next time I make this.

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**Post date:** [April 17, 2020, 5:40pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/american-mild/29168/16 "2020-04-17T17:40:10Z")

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This is the latest version of mine…

#537 American Mild 8

A ProMash Recipe Report

## Recipe Specifics

Batch Size (Gal):&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 5.50&nbsp; &nbsp; Wort Size (Gal):&nbsp; &nbsp; 5.50  
Total Grain (Lbs):&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 9.00  
Anticipated OG:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1.041&nbsp; &nbsp; Plato:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 10.26  
Anticipated SRM:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 12.9  
Anticipated IBU:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 19.7  
Brewhouse Efficiency:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 73 %  
Wort Boil Time:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 60&nbsp; &nbsp; Minutes

Grain/Extract/Sugar

## %&nbsp; &nbsp; Amount&nbsp; &nbsp; Name&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Origin&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Potential SRM

44.4&nbsp; &nbsp; 4.00 lbs. MGEM Lamonta&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1.037&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 3  
44.4&nbsp; &nbsp; 4.00 lbs. MGEM Metolius&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1.035&nbsp; &nbsp; 14  
11.1&nbsp; &nbsp; 1.00 lbs. Crystal 60L&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; America&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1.034&nbsp; &nbsp; 60

Potential represented as SG per pound per gallon.

Hops

## Amount&nbsp; &nbsp; Name&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Form&nbsp; &nbsp; Alpha&nbsp; IBU&nbsp; Boil Time

1.00 oz.&nbsp; &nbsp; Debittered Citra&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Pellet&nbsp; 3.00&nbsp; 4.3&nbsp; First WH  
&nbsp; 1.00 oz.&nbsp; &nbsp; Debittered Simcoe&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Pellet&nbsp; 2.20&nbsp; 9.0&nbsp; 60 min.  
&nbsp; 0.50 oz.&nbsp; &nbsp; Debittered Mosaic&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Pellet&nbsp; 2.70&nbsp; 5.5&nbsp; 60 min.  
&nbsp; 1.00 oz.&nbsp; &nbsp; Debittered Simcoe&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Pellet&nbsp; 2.20&nbsp; 0.4&nbsp; 1 min.  
&nbsp; 1.00 oz.&nbsp; &nbsp; Debittered Citra&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Pellet&nbsp; 3.00&nbsp; 0.5&nbsp; 1 min.

## Yeast

Wyeast 1450 Denny’s Favorite

## Mash Schedule

Mash Name:

Total Grain Lbs:&nbsp; &nbsp; 9.00  
Total Water Qts:&nbsp; 30.00 - Before Additional Infusions  
Total Water Gal:&nbsp; &nbsp; 7.50 - Before Additional Infusions

Tun Thermal Mass:&nbsp; 0.13  
Grain Temp:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 65.00 F

## Step&nbsp; Rest&nbsp; Start&nbsp; Stop&nbsp; Heat&nbsp; &nbsp; Infuse&nbsp; Infuse&nbsp; Infuse Step Name&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Time&nbsp; Time&nbsp; Temp&nbsp; &nbsp; Temp&nbsp; Type&nbsp; &nbsp; Temp&nbsp; &nbsp; Amount&nbsp; Ratio

sacc&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 0&nbsp; &nbsp; 60&nbsp; &nbsp; 158&nbsp; &nbsp; 158&nbsp; Infuse&nbsp; 167&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 30.00&nbsp; 3.33

Total Water Qts:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 30.00 - After Additional Infusions  
Total Water Gal:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 7.50 - After Additional Infusions  
Total Mash Volume Gal:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 8.22 - After Additional Infusions

All temperature measurements are degrees Fahrenheit.  
All infusion amounts are in Quarts.  
All infusion ratios are Quarts/Lbs.

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**Post date:** [April 17, 2020, 5:56pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/american-mild/29168/17 "2020-04-17T17:56:37Z")

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Thanks Denny! Is the Lamonta=Pale and Metolius=Munich?

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**Post date:** [April 17, 2020, 6:00pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/american-mild/29168/18 "2020-04-17T18:00:30Z")

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> Thanks Denny! Is the Lamonta=Pils and Metolius=Munich?

Lamonta is a kinda pale ale malt, 3L.&nbsp; Metolius is Munich 12L.&nbsp; FWIW, I didn’t have much luck until I used these specific ingredients.&nbsp; Using other pale ale/Munich malts just weren’t getting me what I wanted.&nbsp; YMMV

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**Post date:** [April 17, 2020, 11:18pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/american-mild/29168/19 "2020-04-17T23:18:56Z")

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I just placed an order for ingredients for my next three batches.

1. halfarsed grodzke with wheat extract and a mini mash of oak smoked wheat and a bit of red wheat malt.
2. ordinary bitter.
3. a dark version of the pale mild like beer I brewed to try out brumalt, with larger amounts of pale chocolate malt and victory. Maybe a bit of oat malt.

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**Post date:** [May 2, 2020, 2:12am UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/american-mild/29168/20 "2020-05-02T02:12:26Z")

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What???&nbsp; No Fuggles???
