# Brut Bitter? Brut Belgian?

**URL:** <https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/brut-bitter-brut-belgian/28381>\
**Category:** Beer Recipes\
**Created:** [January 19, 2019, 3:55pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/brut-bitter-brut-belgian/28381 "2019-01-19T15:55:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![skyler](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/skyler/32/20702_2.png) [@skyler](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/skyler)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2019, 3:55pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/brut-bitter-brut-belgian/28381/1 "2019-01-19T15:55:40Z")

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I was wondering if anyone had used “Brut IPA” techniques to make brut versions of other styles. I had the idea first thinking of a pilsner, but realized that a watery less-hoppy pilsner would probably taste like Miller Lite. I considered, though, that a few styles could be interesting.

Brut Bitter - 50/50 Maris Otter/Golden Promise, 1.032ish, maybe 15 IBUs from EKG, dry hopped with EKG, English yeast, enzymes added to fermenter. End up with a more flavorful “light beer.”

Brut Belgian Blond - 95% Dingemans Pils, 5% Aromatic malt, 1.050ish, 10 IBUs from something noble, Belgian yeast. Perhaps a cross between a Single, Blond, and BGS?

I guess there are more ideas out there - crystalweizen? But has anyone tried this? Does anyone want to?

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**Author:** ![denny](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/denny/32/13092_2.png) [@denny](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/denny)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2019, 4:52pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/brut-bitter-brut-belgian/28381/2 "2019-01-19T16:52:57Z")

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I’d say a Belgian blond is already brut by definition.

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**Author:** ![rookie\_l\_a](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/rookie_l_a/32/19_2.png) [@rookie\_l\_a](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/rookie_l_a)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2019, 10:25pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/brut-bitter-brut-belgian/28381/3 "2019-01-19T22:25:11Z")

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Might be worth giving several different “brut” versions of other beers a go, submitting an article query to Dave, and writing it up for publication.  
That’s what led to my Imperial Pilsner online extra last year in Mar/Apr.

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**Author:** ![narcout](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/narcout/32/7683_2.png) [@narcout](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/narcout)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 6:12pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/brut-bitter-brut-belgian/28381/4 "2019-01-21T18:12:29Z")

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> [@skyler](#):
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> Brut Bitter - 50/50 Maris Otter/Golden Promise, 1.032ish, maybe 15 IBUs from EKG, dry hopped with EKG, English yeast, enzymes added to fermenter. End up with a more flavorful “light beer.”

I think that would be really interesting and worth trying.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Brewer\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7c8e57/32.png) [@Northern\_Brewer\_1](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/Northern_Brewer_1)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2019, 6:18pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/brut-bitter-brut-belgian/28381/5 "2019-10-06T18:18:28Z")

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In the 1970s, [Boddington’s got down to 1.003](http://barclayperkins.blogspot.com/2018/02/lets-brew-wednesday-1971-boddington-ip.html), and even more recently [it was 1.006](http://barclayperkins.blogspot.com/2012/05/lets-brew-wednesday-1987-boddingtons.html)…

There’s more to bitter than the sweetish Thames Valley style…

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**Author:** ![donger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/donger/32/11507_2.png) [@donger](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/donger)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 9:20pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/brut-bitter-brut-belgian/28381/6 "2019-10-10T21:20:42Z")

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> [@skyler](#):
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> I was wondering if anyone had used “Brut IPA” techniques to make brut versions of other styles. I had the idea first thinking of a pilsner, but realized that a watery less-hoppy pilsner would probably taste like Miller Lite. I considered, though, that a few styles could be interesting.
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> Brut Bitter - 50/50 Maris Otter/Golden Promise, 1.032ish, maybe 15 IBUs from EKG, dry hopped with EKG, English yeast, enzymes added to fermenter. End up with a more flavorful “light beer.”
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> Brut Belgian Blond - 95% Dingemans Pils, 5% Aromatic malt, 1.050ish, 10 IBUs from something noble, Belgian yeast. Perhaps a cross between a Single, Blond, and BGS?
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> I guess there are more ideas out there - crystalweizen? But has anyone tried this? Does anyone want to?

Brut Belgian - It’s called DeUs and it’s been around for awhile. Don’t use enzymes, brew it in the traditional champagne methode. [Bosteels Brewery](http://bestbelgianspecialbeers.be/en/deus/the-story)
