# Cost Per Batch?

**URL:** <https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/cost-per-batch/1728>\
**Category:** General Homebrew Discussion\
**Created:** [April 6, 2010, 6:48pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/cost-per-batch/1728 "2010-04-06T18:48:36Z")\
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**Author:** ![captnjohnny1618](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/captnjohnny1618/32/8103_2.png) [@captnjohnny1618](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/captnjohnny1618)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 6:48pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/cost-per-batch/1728/1 "2010-04-06T18:48:36Z")

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I try to keep my prices around $30 per batch (I’m still extract brewing) but they always seems to creep closer to $40, which is quite an expenditure all at once for a college student!&nbsp; I’m not complaining, it’s still cheaper than store bought beer or beer at a bar, but I’m just trying to stay thrifty.

So my question, (to both extract and all grain brewers):

How much money on average does a 5 gallon batch cost you? Any what are your brewing mostly (dark beers? Light beers? Belgians? etc.)

(Feel free to throw in any tips for keeping costs down…&nbsp; ;D)

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**Author:** ![babalu87](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/babalu87/32/12923_2.png) [@babalu87](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/babalu87)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 6:54pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/cost-per-batch/1728/2 "2010-04-06T18:54:47Z")

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Half that anyway but we do bulk grain buys with my brew club.

Re-use yeast ( you can get minimum 5 generations out of one pack, more if you reserve and make starters OR freeze)  
Buy hops in bulk

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**Author:** ![captnjohnny1618](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/captnjohnny1618/32/8103_2.png) [@captnjohnny1618](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/captnjohnny1618)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 7:04pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/cost-per-batch/1728/3 "2010-04-06T19:04:06Z")

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> [@babalu87](#):
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> Half that anyway but we do bulk grain buys with my brew club.
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> Re-use yeast ( you can get minimum 5 generations out of one pack, more if you reserve and make starters OR freeze)  
> Buy hops in bulk

Yeah, I’m hopefully joining a club soon. (I’ll be attending my first meeting this weekend! Woo hoo!) I don’t brew often enough (I try to brew once every 3-4 weeks) to reuse yeast without going to lengths to culture my own. I also don’t think my fridge is big enough to properly culture yeast.

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**Author:** ![weithman5](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/weithman5/32/9958_2.png) [@weithman5](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/weithman5)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 7:51pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/cost-per-batch/1728/4 "2010-04-06T19:51:25Z")

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every three to four weeks you should be able to reuse your yeast fine.&nbsp; just save the slurry and build up a new starter from it.&nbsp; keep it in a small mason jar.

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/original/1X/f1a2211dcb353b921ed70873794a31db2031eccc.png) [@system](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/system)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 7:51pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/cost-per-batch/1728/5 "2010-04-06T19:51:30Z")

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All grain with 55 lb sacks is the way to go (I think I pay 88 cents per pound for Best Malz and MFB Pils sacks at my LHBS). &nbsp;Buying a pound of hops from hopsdirect is also going to save you a lot of money.

Everything else (yeast ranching, canning starter wort, etc) is worth it, but has less return.

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**Author:** ![denny](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/denny/32/13092_2.png) [@denny](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/denny)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 7:56pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/cost-per-batch/1728/6 "2010-04-06T19:56:20Z")

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I have no idea what a batch costs me…it’s my hobby, so I really don’t care.&nbsp; I know it’s cheaper than buying a bass boat!&nbsp; 😉

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**Author:** ![yugamrap](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/yugamrap/32/12806_2.png) [@yugamrap](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/yugamrap)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 8:10pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/cost-per-batch/1728/7 "2010-04-06T20:10:23Z")

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> [@denny](#):
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> I have no idea what a batch costs me…it’s my hobby, so I really don’t care.&nbsp; I know it’s cheaper than buying a bass boat!&nbsp; 😉

My sentiments exactly!&nbsp; I try to keep my costs down by purchasing un-crushed base grains by the sack, and reusing yeast when I can - but that’s as much about convenience as it is cost.&nbsp; It seems almost silly that I think about saving a few cents per pound of grain when I have three refrigerators dedicated entirely to brewing and beer (one for fermenting, one for lagering, one for serving).&nbsp; I guess what I save on ingredients helps offset the fuel and electricity I use when I brew and store my beer.&nbsp; IMHO, saving money isn’t a good reason to take up homebrewing - or any other hobby.&nbsp; I do it because I enjoy it (okay, I’m obsessed, too!).

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**Author:** ![majorvices](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/majorvices/32/12825_2.png) [@majorvices](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/majorvices)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 8:10pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/cost-per-batch/1728/8 "2010-04-06T20:10:35Z")

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Go all grain and buy your malt and hops in bulk and reuse your yeast. I can make 10 gallons of beer for less than 20 bucks.

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**Author:** ![brewark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/brewark/32/12999_2.png) [@brewark](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/brewark)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 8:13pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/cost-per-batch/1728/9 "2010-04-06T20:13:14Z")

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> [@narvin](#):
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> All grain with 55 lb sacks is the way to go (I think I pay 88 cents per pound for Best Malz and MFB Pils sacks at my LHBS). &nbsp;Buying a pound of hops from hopsdirect is also going to save you a lot of money.
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> Everything else (yeast ranching, canning starter wort, etc) is worth it, but has less return.

+1 on the full sacks of grain if you can store/use them.

There are lots of little tricks (like brewing 10 gallons instead of 5 to save pennies on propane or growing your own hops) that aren’t going to be appreciable.

I’d recommend acquiring the important equipment over time when you can find it cheap.&nbsp; When you do spend money, focus on the biggest bang for the buck in quality (i.e. control fermentation temperature before buying a draft system).

If you really want to control the cost per batch - brew the cheaper beers now while you’re poor.&nbsp; Get good at it, then when you can afford it move up the line.

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**Author:** ![bluesman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/97f17d/32.png) [@bluesman](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/bluesman)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 8:44pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/cost-per-batch/1728/10 "2010-04-06T20:44:25Z")

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My goal is to the make the best possible beer with quality ingredients. Therefore cost becomes secondary. I do try to buy ingredients in bulk or group grain purchases. I also price shop online to find deals. I won’t let cost get in the way of quality if I can help it.

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**Author:** ![denny](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/denny/32/13092_2.png) [@denny](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/denny)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 9:03pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/cost-per-batch/1728/11 "2010-04-06T21:03:05Z")

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> [@bluesman](#):
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> My goal is to the make the best possible beer with quality ingredients. Therefore cost becomes secondary. I do try to buy ingredients in bulk or group grain purchases. I also price shop online to find deals. I won’t let cost get in the way of quality if I can help it.

+1 to you and yugamrap…I don’t have a “damn the cost” attitude and I do try to keep costs reasonable, but beyond that it just doesn’t matter to me.

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**Author:** ![majorvices](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/majorvices/32/12825_2.png) [@majorvices](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/majorvices)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 9:37pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/cost-per-batch/1728/12 "2010-04-06T21:37:10Z")

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You can still make great beer and keep the cost down. I never understood that “damn the cost” attitude. But I am a frugal dude. That said, I’m not suggesting skimping on ingredients either.

BTW, denny, what happened to **CHEAP** and easy?&nbsp; :🙂 😉

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**Author:** ![babalu87](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/babalu87/32/12923_2.png) [@babalu87](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/babalu87)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 9:57pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/cost-per-batch/1728/13 "2010-04-06T21:57:37Z")

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> [@majorvices](#):
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> You can still make great beer and keep the cost down. I never understood that “damn the cost” attitude. But I am a frugal dude. That said, I’m not suggesting skimping on ingredients either.
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> BTW, denny, what happened to **CHEAP** and easy?&nbsp; :🙂 😉

Choose one option

Expensive equipment  
Craptastic ingredients

Craptastic equipment  
Expensive equipment

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**Author:** ![barleynyeast](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/barleynyeast/32/4731_2.png) [@barleynyeast](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/barleynyeast)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 10:24pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/cost-per-batch/1728/14 "2010-04-06T22:24:42Z")

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I brewed 10 Gallons of blond ale for a St Patrick’s day party. I used repitched yeast, hops that where giving to me by the party host. (He is from Yakima and get lots of hops every year for free ;D Lucky me!) So the total cost was $18.00. (Cheapest beer I ever made.)  
That’s what I tell my wife and I am sticking to it! Never mind the $5k in brewing equipment over the last 4 years :o

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**Author:** ![majorvices](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/majorvices/32/12825_2.png) [@majorvices](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/majorvices)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 11:23pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/cost-per-batch/1728/15 "2010-04-06T23:23:51Z")

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> [@babalu87](#):
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> > [@majorvices](#):
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> > You can still make great beer and keep the cost down. I never understood that “damn the cost” attitude. But I am a frugal dude. That said, I’m not suggesting skimping on ingredients either.
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> > BTW, denny, what happened to **CHEAP** and easy?&nbsp; :🙂 😉
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> Choose one option
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> Expensive equipment  
> Craptastic ingredients
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> Craptastic equipment  
> Expensive equipment

I think I’ll choose “buy quality ingredients in bulk and save a shitload of money”.&nbsp; 😉

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**Author:** ![babalu87](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/babalu87/32/12923_2.png) [@babalu87](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/babalu87)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 11:53pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/cost-per-batch/1728/16 "2010-04-06T23:53:30Z")

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Ugh

4 kids milling around = FAIL POST

Craptastic equipment  
Great Ingredients

or

Craptastic ingredients  
Expensive equipment

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**Author:** ![captnjohnny1618](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/captnjohnny1618/32/8103_2.png) [@captnjohnny1618](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/captnjohnny1618)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2010, 12:18am UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/cost-per-batch/1728/17 "2010-04-07T00:18:43Z")

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> [@weithman5](#):
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> every three to four weeks you should be able to reuse your yeast fine.&nbsp; just save the slurry and build up a new starter from it.&nbsp; keep it in a small mason jar.

Any specific measures that need to be taken for sanitation? Also, how big is a “small” mason jar?

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**Author:** ![captnjohnny1618](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/captnjohnny1618/32/8103_2.png) [@captnjohnny1618](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/captnjohnny1618)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2010, 12:22am UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/cost-per-batch/1728/18 "2010-04-07T00:22:10Z")

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> [@denny](#):
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> I have no idea what a batch costs me…it’s my hobby, so I really don’t care.&nbsp; I know it’s cheaper than buying a bass boat!&nbsp; 😉

Believe me, I would take that attitude if I had a bit more money to throw around.&nbsp; Right now, I have $30 in the bank and $15 in cash and I’m trying to decide whether or not I need to eat for the next two weeks…

I also just had a batch of brown ale go off the deep end (bacteria I’m pretty sure) and I REALLY don’t want that to happen again.&nbsp; I don’t have any beer right now b/c of that loss!

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**Author:** ![a10t2](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/a10t2/32/6257_2.png) [@a10t2](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/a10t2)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2010, 4:32am UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/cost-per-batch/1728/19 "2010-04-07T04:32:12Z")

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> [@captnjohnny1618](#):
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> Any specific measures that need to be taken for sanitation? Also, how big is a “small” mason jar?

Nothing beyond what you’re already doing. Also, at a month or less I wouldn’t worry about making a starter either - since you’re doing extract that’ll save some money. With AG you can do propagations with your leftover wort: [Yeast Ranching and You « SeanTerrill.com](http://seanterrill.com/2010/03/23/yeast-ranching-and-you/) Check out the slurry tab on the MrMalty calculator for exact numbers, but you’ll be using around 50-100 mL of slurry for most ales.

To actually answer the question, an average-gravity AG batch costs me about $15-20 for 5 gallons. Roughly a quarter of that is propane, which people always seem to forget about.

> [@captnjohnny1618](#):
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> Right now, I have $30 in the bank and $15 in cash and I’m trying to decide whether or not I need to eat for the next two weeks…

Just brew, and kill two birds with one stone. It worked out pretty well for some monks I know… 😉

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**Author:** ![weithman5](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/weithman5/32/9958_2.png) [@weithman5](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/weithman5)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2010, 10:56am UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/cost-per-batch/1728/20 "2010-04-07T10:56:51Z")

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i have various jars.some are full quart size and some are half pint. you could even use your leftover jelly, peanut butter or even a beer bottle.&nbsp; you dont need to go crazy but make sure it is at least washed with hot water and rinsed. i also save a little bit of my wort in the freezer to use as a starter for the next time if idont have enough slurry.

as far as propane, i have a natural gas grill off my house line.&nbsp; i am trying to get a burner to come off that line.&nbsp; still costs but i can blame the kids and long showers.

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