# Don't know what to think

**URL:** <https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/dont-know-what-to-think/7583>\
**Category:** The Pub\
**Created:** [August 27, 2011, 1:21am UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/dont-know-what-to-think/7583 "2011-08-27T01:21:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![denny](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/denny/32/13092_2.png) [@denny](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/denny)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2011, 5:50pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/dont-know-what-to-think/7583/21 "2011-08-29T17:50:10Z")

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> [@nicneufeld](#):
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> Sure it wasn’t 1970 or 71 or so?&nbsp; By 1980 they were recording Gaucho, on the verge of a 15 year hiatus, and had long since given up touring (which they did in the early 70s, but eventually hated it and became a studio only band).&nbsp; I think it was either Pretzel Logic or Katy Lied that was their last album as a touring band…then Royal Scam, Aja, and Gaucho, where they really honed their art.&nbsp; Seems like they really enjoy touring now though, been at it for 15 years now, again.

You’re absolutely right, it was 1970, not 80.

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**Author:** ![mdixon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/mdixon/32/19_2.png) [@mdixon](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/mdixon)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2011, 11:28pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/dont-know-what-to-think/7583/22 "2011-08-29T23:28:30Z")

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I didn’t post earlier, but figured after several pints of various O’fest what the heck. I read the WSJ article when it first came out and thought (still think) what a waste of resources. We could seriously lay off this entire group of people and those like them and save some coin. Now it is not good if Gibson has illegally harvested wood on their property, but to allocate resources to do a witch hunt is absurd.

As to whether or not a tree from a particular forest can make the difference in sound - the jury may be out - I’d say on an accoustic guitar is may make a difference, on an electric, not so much. I would bet SRV could still play his brain out on a Squier.

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**Author:** ![majorvices](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/majorvices/32/12825_2.png) [@majorvices](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/majorvices)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 2:42am UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/dont-know-what-to-think/7583/23 "2011-08-30T02:42:30Z")

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> [@slowbrew](#):
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> Was a big SD fan way back when.

Some of their new stuff is awesome. “Everything Must Go” was their latest album, it won a grammy. Worth the purchase of the album for sure. “Two Against Nature” also had some really good songs on it. And Fagen’s “Kamikiriad” was a solo album but since Becker produced it it sounds like Steely Dan. good stuff, all of it.

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**Author:** ![nicneufeld](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/nicneufeld/32/3814_2.png) [@nicneufeld](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/nicneufeld)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 12:37pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/dont-know-what-to-think/7583/24 "2011-08-30T12:37:01Z")

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Also check out Morph the Cat, Fagen’s newest…good album!&nbsp; Love all his solo stuff, and I definitely preferred the new Dan album to Two Against Nature, which I liked, just didn’t LOVE.

And this '82 album is classic.

[![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANA5MGMKyBU)

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**Author:** ![kit\_b](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/kit_b/32/13535_2.png) [@kit\_b](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/kit_b)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 6:04pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/dont-know-what-to-think/7583/25 "2011-08-30T18:04:18Z")

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> [@nicneufeld](#):
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> Heavy marketing to consumers over the past several decades has created this environment, where people who couldn’t tell the difference between a Strat and a Tele, when blindfolded, will wax on about how they can’t settle for a solid state rectifier and the KT88 tubes in their amp are non-negotiable.

If a person plays either regularly & can’t tell after strapping one on & strumming…They should probably hang it up.

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**Author:** ![nicneufeld](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/nicneufeld/32/3814_2.png) [@nicneufeld](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/nicneufeld)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 6:59pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/dont-know-what-to-think/7583/26 "2011-08-30T18:59:49Z")

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> If a person plays either regularly & can’t tell after strapping one on & strumming…They should probably hang it up.

I bet it would be very easy to engineer a blindfolded sound test where at least 90% of guitarists could not consistently tell the difference…the amount of variations available in factory and aftermarket strat and tele pickups are such that as long as you avoid the middle pickup (the 2, 4 positions are a dead giveaway on a strat) there is a wide area of overlap.&nbsp; Strat and Tele in the neck position, if with comparable strength pickups?&nbsp; You hear a song on the radio and think, “well, that chrome pickup cover really deadens the tone…”&nbsp; I think more people like to THINK they can tell a difference, than actually do.

Of course, if you strap one on, then you should be able to figure it out in a tactile way regardless!

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**Author:** ![kit\_b](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/kit_b/32/13535_2.png) [@kit\_b](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/kit_b)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 7:34pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/dont-know-what-to-think/7583/27 "2011-08-30T19:34:59Z")

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I’ve always been partial to the amazing tones & deepness you can get from a Tele.  
Strats just can’t make certain kinds of noise.

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