Extract recipe questions

Brewing Processes
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I’m playing around with Beer Smith and have converted a Gumballhead all-grain recipe to extract (copied below).
My questions are;

  1. is Caravienne Malt something that I would use as a steeping grain?
  2. would the first wort hop addition (fourth step) be thrown in with the steeping grains pre-boil?

6 lbs 8.0 oz Red Wheat (3.5 SRM) Grain 1 48.1 %
5 lbs 8.0 oz Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 2 40.7 %
1 lbs 8.0 oz Caravienne Malt (22.0 SRM) Grain 3 11.1 %
0.25 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] - First Wort 60.0 min Hop 4 8.3 IBUs
0.25 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 5 7.5 IBUs
0.50 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] - Boil 15.0 min Hop 6 7.5 IBUs
1.25 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 7 7.5 IBUs
1.00 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] - Boil 1.0 min Hop 8 1.3 IBUs
1.0 pkg California Ale (White Labs #WLP001) [35.49 ml] Yeast 9 -
1.50 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] - Dry Hop 0.0 Days Hop 10 0.0 IBUs

2

You can steep caravienne. MoreBeer’s Octoberfest has it steeped along with Caramunich and Abbey malt. Vienna and Munich must be mashed/mini-mashed.

http://morebeer.com/images/file.php?file_id=1404

I never tried FWH back when I was an extract brewer. Your plan sounds logical to me.

EDIT - quick search and this guy recommends removing the grains and then steeping the hops for an additional time. I guess the grains could pull out some of the oils.

3

For my extract brews I put in my steeping grains in the beginning as the water heats up. When the water hits 170F I pull the grains and add my FWH. Works quite well. No need to stop and hold temp for your steeping grains.

4

Just an update on steeping caravienne…although I seeped a very small amount in my two gallon batch (.4 ounces) it was very hard to tell if it was adding any color to the water. Either it’s a very light colored grain when seeped, or it’s bc my volume was so small. I did notice some light color after seeping for about 15 minutes as the temp got closer to 150-160.