Last weekend i brew my first American IPA, came out with 5 gallon and 1.069 OG and 111 IBUS with Magnum for bitterness and Cascade and Athantum for flavoring. I want to get some really good aromas as well in secondary and i plan to use whole leafs of Cascade… so ,how much do i have to use? half ounce? more?
i dont want a grassy aroma of course
thanks!
saludosss
Al
I never use less than an oz. and I’ve gone up to 4 oz.
Depends on how much aroma you are looking for. But, I never use less than 2oz. for an IPA and like Denny have gone up to 4oz.
i asked becouse i read in a recipe that to much can develop some unwanted aromas
I want just a good aroma but no extremely, i usually dont rack to secondary becouse im a little afraid of infection, but this time i’ll go for it,
thanks guys!
Sometimes in a light bitter or something, I’ll go as little as 1/4 oz. But in an IPA, 2oz is standard for me, and 3-4 if I really want a hoppy punch to the liver.
A few minutes ago I dry-hopped 1 oz pellet per five gallons in the keg. Two kegs of special bitter get the treatment except I used Amarillo in one and Cascade in the other. Each ounce was divided into 4 bouquet garni bags for optimal coverage then dropped into the kegs after filling.
Hoping to get some flavor out of it as well.
Euge you give me an idea for using a bouquet garni in to it, i think i have some Cascade in pellets wich is gonna save some dollars
very enjoyable using two differente dry hops in that Bitter,
thanks!
Al
I just dry-hopped an American-style ordinary bitter with 5oz. of pellet hops and the aroma is awesome!
I wouldn’t go any lower than 2 oz. I would suggest as high as 3 oz, but I have limited experience using leaf hops for dry hopping and so I can’t comment on any challenges that may present (e.g. excessive absorption of beer, difficulty racking, etc.)
The biggest factor in preventing the grassy/vegetal aroma is contact time. I never, ever dry hop for longer than 5 days. That, in my experience, is the sweet spot for getting great flavor and aroma and preventing that grassy flavor. But again, my experience is almost entirely with pellet hops which have a higher contact surface area, so that sweet spot may be different for leaf. Maybe somebody else can comment on that.
thank’s Hopvine, for comments… ok but asume that you’re refering the use of pellets with muslin bags yes? im a little afraid of infecting the batch, well sanitized before let it in the beer, so maybe 3or 5 days in the secondary will be enough…
Al
Then how do you account for those of us who dry hop for months and don’t get off flavors? I dry hop with both whole and pellet hops and don’t get grassy flavors.
When you brew an IPA with the max amount of bitterness (100+ IBUs), you need a LOT of hop flavor/aroma just to bring it into balance.
I would go with the hopping schedule of an Imperial IPA. About 3 oz of hops for two weeks or so, then pull and replace them with another 3 oz.
What dryhops are you going to use???
Where does one find “boquet garni” bags?
Lemon bags seem slightly bigger sized and far cheaper.
The size is comparable to a ice-tea bag- 2 7/8" by 3 3/4". Sanitize in starsan before loading up with a small amount of hops. I hand-wash and reuse mine. Just work the hops out for they will have swelled, turn it inside out and rinse off the particles. Air-dry.
got it!.. thanks Euge…
cheers and Saludosss
One other consideration is the AA% of the hops. The higher the AA%, the more lupulin and oils, the more aromatic quality you’ll get from the hops, therefore lesser quantity can be added to acheive the same level of aroma as a lower AA% hop, however it’s all subjective to your personal tastes, where some prefer grapefruit and others prefer piny or resiny…and any combination of aromatics.
I think it will be a matter of trial and error to get to your personal threshold. I like to go with 2 oz of “C” hops in a five gallon corny, as a general rule but it also depends on the beer style I trying to emulate.
absolutely, i think is up to me and the result will give me my own personal quantities
thanks!
Al
I have noticed that when I dryhop with higher alpha hops (Amarillo, Simcoe, CTZ, etc.), I get no veggie, grassiness, but I have seen this issue when I leave lower alpha hops like hallertauer or even Cascade in for over 5 or 6 weeks.