# Lagers stress me out!

**URL:** <https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/lagers-stress-me-out/8204>\
**Category:** Ingredients\
**Created:** [October 26, 2011, 4:28pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/lagers-stress-me-out/8204 "2011-10-26T16:28:33Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![gmac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c6cbf5/32.png) [@gmac](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/gmac)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2011, 4:28pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/lagers-stress-me-out/8204/1 "2011-10-26T16:28:33Z")

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I don’t know why I do this to myself but I made a bock on Monday.&nbsp; I used a vial of WLP833 that I had although it was old.&nbsp; I added it to a 250 ml starter for several days, decanted and added 1L of wort for several days, decanted and added 4L of wort for a week, all at room temp.&nbsp; I crashed this, decanted and added what appeared to be a very respectable slurry to the carboy yesterday after the beer had reached lager temp.&nbsp; The thermometer in the cold room is bang on 10C (50F) so that should be fine.  
But, here we are a day later and absolutely no activity apparent.&nbsp; I know lagers aren’t that active as compared to ales but does this seem right.

Of course, it doesn’t help that I’m working from home this week so I’m checking it every hour…

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**Author:** ![tygo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/tygo/32/2134_2.png) [@tygo](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/tygo)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2011, 4:30pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/lagers-stress-me-out/8204/2 "2011-10-26T16:30:12Z")

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Yeah, I wouldn’t worry yet.&nbsp; Sounds like you did everything right.

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**Author:** ![majorvices](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/majorvices/32/12825_2.png) [@majorvices](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/majorvices)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2011, 5:14pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/lagers-stress-me-out/8204/3 "2011-10-26T17:14:23Z")

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I often get a 24 hour lag with ales, I wouldn’t worry until 48 hours have past with a lager.

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**Author:** ![aviking427](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/aviking427/32/11418_2.png) [@aviking427](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/aviking427)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2011, 5:17pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/lagers-stress-me-out/8204/4 "2011-10-26T17:17:53Z")

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Did you oxygenate the wort enough? If not, you might be seeing some lag there. Also, &nbsp;cold wort holds more CO2 so you might not get any major activity until the beer is saturated enough with CO2, so gurgling will happen a bit later.

Working from home is dangerous when you have fermentation on the brain.

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**Author:** ![weithman5](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/weithman5/32/9958_2.png) [@weithman5](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/weithman5)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2011, 5:21pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/lagers-stress-me-out/8204/5 "2011-10-26T17:21:25Z")

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i brew lagers. often i don’t ever notice any activity, then a few weeks in check the gravity and well, the yeast are munching just fine.

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**Author:** ![seajellie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/73ab20/32.png) [@seajellie](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/seajellie)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2011, 7:33pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/lagers-stress-me-out/8204/6 "2011-10-26T19:33:20Z")

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To ease the stress, my lager “starter” is typically a two or three gallon starter batch of a light gravity style. If I’m really concerned about the yeast (as with WLP820, always) I’ll lighten the gravity even a bit more, and allow it to start fermentation a few degrees warmer. The result may not win any competitions, but I get a couple gallons of great thirst-quenching beer, it’s hardly more work than making a real starter, and I get a very healthy cake out of it.

Edit: oh right, I’m working from home too.

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**Author:** ![gmac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c6cbf5/32.png) [@gmac](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/gmac)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 9:46pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/lagers-stress-me-out/8204/7 "2011-10-27T21:46:26Z")

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As usual, I worried too soon.&nbsp; There’s a good head of krausen on the beer now and it’s bubbling away.&nbsp; Not near what I’m used to with ales but it’s working.&nbsp; Assuming this beer is good, I’ll wash this yeast for the next lager so I should have an even larger pitch for the next time.  
Thanks

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**Author:** ![hopfenundmalz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/hopfenundmalz/32/11193_2.png) [@hopfenundmalz](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/hopfenundmalz)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 11:30pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/lagers-stress-me-out/8204/8 "2011-10-27T23:30:43Z")

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I no longer stress when doing lagers.&nbsp; If you pitch a big amount of healthy yeast, with O2, and control the temps, no worries.

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**Author:** ![bluesman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/97f17d/32.png) [@bluesman](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/bluesman)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 11:44pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/lagers-stress-me-out/8204/9 "2011-10-27T23:44:49Z")

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I think you’ll gain more confidence as you get more batches under your belt. I also stressed my lager fermentations in the beginning but became more confident as I gained more experience with them.

Colder fermentations = slower fermentations.

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**Author:** ![redbeerman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/redbeerman/32/10016_2.png) [@redbeerman](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/redbeerman)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2011, 3:01pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/lagers-stress-me-out/8204/10 "2011-10-28T15:01:16Z")

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> [@bluesman](#):
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> I think you’ll gain more confidence as you get more batches under your belt. I also stressed my lager fermentations in the beginning but became more confident as I gained more experience with them.
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> Colder fermentations = slower fermentations.

And less Krausen as well.&nbsp; The CO2 comes out of solution at a slower rate at lower temps.

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**Author:** ![ynotbrusum](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/ynotbrusum/32/10316_2.png) [@ynotbrusum](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/ynotbrusum)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2011, 2:05pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/lagers-stress-me-out/8204/11 "2011-10-29T14:05:12Z")

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If you time your batches, you could get into a cycle of pitching slurry each time (or if you are lucky enough to have a conical to harvest the slurry).&nbsp; I always have plenty of yeast to pitch this way - I go up to 5 re-pitches and haven’t had any problems.&nbsp; Add some yeast nutrient after the second batch just to be sure.

Cheers.
