# Margaritas and Whiskey Old Fashioneds... **URL:** \ **Category:** The Pub\ **Created:** [February 10, 2018, 2:35am UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/margaritas-and-whiskey-old-fashioneds/26969 "2018-02-10T02:35:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![dmtaylor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/dmtaylor/32/9644_2.png) [@dmtaylor](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/dmtaylor)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2018, 2:35am UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/margaritas-and-whiskey-old-fashioneds/26969/1 "2018-02-10T02:35:24Z")
…are some of the reasons I only drink about 2 beers per week on average. Yeah. ---
**Author:** ![ethinson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/ethinson/32/6101_2.png) [@ethinson](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/ethinson)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2018, 2:55pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/margaritas-and-whiskey-old-fashioneds/26969/2 "2018-02-10T14:55:11Z")
I got the fixings to make an old fashioned and discovered I really really like Angosturra Bitters.  There’s been a couple times I’ve ordered a Manhattan out at a bar mistaking it for an Old Fashioned, but they are similar. I had a manhattan at Disneyland that went heavy on the bitters, I remarked to my wife “This is essentially Bourbon and Bitters… and it’s great!” I couldn’t taste the vermouth but that was OK by me. ---
**Author:** ![dmtaylor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/dmtaylor/32/9644_2.png) [@dmtaylor](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/dmtaylor)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2018, 4:48pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/margaritas-and-whiskey-old-fashioneds/26969/3 "2018-02-10T16:48:29Z")
Yeah, an old fashioned is very close to being just a diluted version of a perfect Manhattan.  Or conversely, a Manhattan is a very very strong old fashioned. ---
**Author:** ![reverseapachemaster](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/reverseapachemaster/32/19_2.png) [@reverseapachemaster](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/reverseapachemaster)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2018, 6:52pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/margaritas-and-whiskey-old-fashioneds/26969/4 "2018-02-10T18:52:18Z")
Definitely dig a well made old fashioned. Especially if made with rye rather than bourbon. Margarita? Stop diluting my tequila. ---
**Author:** ![wbaar2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/977dab/32.png) [@wbaar2](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/wbaar2)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2018, 8:47pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/margaritas-and-whiskey-old-fashioneds/26969/5 "2018-02-10T20:47:09Z")
There’s a coffee shop (with beer on tap) that serves a (c)Old Fashioned-old fashioned with coffee infused bourbon. It’s pretty amazing. The coffee flavor isn’t really strong, just enough to get a blend in. ---
**Author:** ![tgwilliams](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/tgwilliams/32/3075_2.png) [@tgwilliams](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/tgwilliams)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 2:35am UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/margaritas-and-whiskey-old-fashioneds/26969/6 "2018-02-12T02:35:08Z")
Dark and Stormy is my new “go to”… ---
**Author:** ![erockrph](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/erockrph/32/13330_2.png) [@erockrph](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/erockrph)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 4:32pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/margaritas-and-whiskey-old-fashioneds/26969/7 "2018-02-12T16:32:39Z")
> [@](#): > > Dark and Stormy is my new “go to”… I’m a huge fan of D&S. Try making your own ginger beer sometime - it’s a game changer. ---
**Author:** ![JJeffers09](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/jjeffers09/32/11256_2.png) [@JJeffers09](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/JJeffers09)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 4:55pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/margaritas-and-whiskey-old-fashioneds/26969/8 "2018-02-12T16:55:51Z")
> [@dmtaylor](#): > > Yeah, an old fashioned is very close to being just a diluted version of a perfect Manhattan.  Or conversely, a Manhattan is a very very strong old fashioned. Ouch, my brain hurts Rye is king for both cocktails - however an old fashioned is not alcoholic sunny d, it has a hint of orange. Both cocktails are intended to appreciate the whiskey it is made with.  Strong and complex, not sweet. The Manhattan has a lot more dilution than a traditional Old Fashioned.  AKA The great old fashioned debate if you want to dive deeper into that history/argument. Old Fashioned vs Manhattan Sugar cube (1 cube only to 2 oz whiskey ) vs sweet vermouth to sweeten (2part whiskey to 1part Vermouth) Orange peel vs brandied cherry both share bitters - however historically Fee brothers bitters vs Angostura stir poured over a lump of ice vs stirred in a shaker glass full of ice/strained ---
**Author:** ![ethinson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/ethinson/32/6101_2.png) [@ethinson](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/ethinson)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 8:47pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/margaritas-and-whiskey-old-fashioneds/26969/9 "2018-02-12T20:47:28Z")
> [@reverseapachemaster](#): > > Definitely dig a well made old fashioned. Especially if made with rye rather than bourbon. > > Margarita? Stop diluting my tequila. I do enjoy rye whiskey.  Both for mixing and for sipping. Have you heard of Damiana? It’s an herbal liquor from the La Paz region of Baja California Sur.  It’s sweet and a little floral.  It’s readily available here in Oregon so I would assume other places as well? Sometimes we’ll just mix a pour of tequila with the damiana over ice and call that a “margarita”.  (About 2:1 Tequila to Damiana).  It still dilutes of course, but not nearly as much as say 2oz of Tequila in 16oz of “Mix” the way Applebees does it. ---
**Author:** ![mabrungard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/mabrungard/32/12430_2.png) [@mabrungard](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/mabrungard)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 1:42pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/margaritas-and-whiskey-old-fashioneds/26969/10 "2018-02-14T13:42:07Z")
Rye is a valuable enhancement for a Manhattan. This is a recipe that my wife pulled off the web, excepting that I used Towne Branch Rye instead of bourbon. 1 cup bourbon 2/3 cup sweet vermouth 4 dashes Angostura (I found that it needs an extra dash or two) 4 Orange peel twists 4 Candied cherries Obviously, this is not for one person! ---
**Author:** ![ethinson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/ethinson/32/6101_2.png) [@ethinson](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/ethinson)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 12:10am UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/margaritas-and-whiskey-old-fashioneds/26969/11 "2018-02-15T00:10:38Z")
> [@mabrungard](#): > > Rye is a valuable enhancement for a Manhattan. This is a recipe that my wife pulled off the web, excepting that I used Towne Branch Rye instead of bourbon. > > 1 cup bourbon > 2/3 cup sweet vermouth > 4 dashes Angostura (I found that it needs an extra dash or two) > 4 Orange peel twists > 4 Candied cherries > > **Obviously, this is not for one person!** Challenge accepted… 🙂 On that note, I like to add cherries to my old fashioned so I guess I’m making a hybrid cocktail (although never really thought about it like that). ---
**Author:** ![Megary](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/megary/32/900_2.png) [@Megary](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/Megary)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2025, 11:56pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/margaritas-and-whiskey-old-fashioneds/26969/12 "2025-07-20T23:56:45Z")
Bump… A bartender at our favorite restaurant makes a particularly tasty Old Fashioned. Watching her put them together, I have noticed she is a big muddler…orange peel and one of those fancy cherries whose name escapes me right now. She is also a proponent of using two different bitters for extra complexity. When you get to the bottom of that drink, you are approaching cocktail heaven. Not for the lack of trying, but I can never get the depth of flavor that she manages. She has also convinced me that a Reposado Old Fashioned is to be taken seriously as well. ---
**Author:** ![dmtaylor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/dmtaylor/32/9644_2.png) [@dmtaylor](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/dmtaylor)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2025, 1:04am UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/margaritas-and-whiskey-old-fashioneds/26969/13 "2025-07-21T01:04:15Z")
> [@Megary](#): > > Reposado Old Fashioned Interesting. I haven’t tried this yet. Hmm… ---
**Author:** ![wdoucette](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/wdoucette/32/19_2.png) [@wdoucette](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/wdoucette)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2025, 7:33pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/margaritas-and-whiskey-old-fashioneds/26969/14 "2025-07-21T19:33:24Z")
An Old Fashion made with Remy Martin Cognac is good as it gets. I was told it was a waste of cognac, but so smooth. What the hell, it’s my cognac.