# Oktober Can Seamer **URL:** \ **Category:** Systems, Gear, & DIY\ **Created:** [October 30, 2016, 10:53pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/oktober-can-seamer/24286 "2016-10-30T22:53:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![brewsumore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7feea3/32.png) [@brewsumore](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/brewsumore)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2016, 10:53pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/oktober-can-seamer/24286/1 "2016-10-30T22:53:03Z")
Pretty cool! > **[Can Seamers For The Beverage Industry](https://oktoberdesign.com/)** > > Oktober Can Seamers and Crowler™ Can Seamers are extremely reliable and easy to use. Oktober offers both Professional and Homebrewer Crowler™ canning solutions that are ready to go right out of the box. Oktober Can Seamers also supplies Brite and... ---
**Author:** ![beersk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/beersk/32/13414_2.png) [@beersk](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/beersk)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 1:50pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/oktober-can-seamer/24286/2 "2016-10-31T13:50:49Z")
Pricey! ---
**Author:** ![brewsumore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7feea3/32.png) [@brewsumore](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/brewsumore)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 4:04pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/oktober-can-seamer/24286/3 "2016-10-31T16:04:35Z")
> [@beersk](#): > > Pricey! Yeah, it’s not for everyone, me especially. ---
**Author:** ![pmorrissette](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/pmorrissette/32/2952_2.png) [@pmorrissette](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/pmorrissette)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 5:00pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/oktober-can-seamer/24286/4 "2016-10-31T17:00:01Z")
Yes, it’s pricey compared to a lot in the homebrewing hobby…but remember homebrewing is cheap compared to many other hobbies. That being said, if I had $1500 to throw at a hobby I’ve be buying headers for my Camaro…not a canner. ---
**Author:** ![rookie\_l\_a](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/rookie_l_a/32/19_2.png) [@rookie\_l\_a](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/rookie_l_a)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 5:40pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/oktober-can-seamer/24286/5 "2016-10-31T17:40:18Z")
> [@beersk](#): > > Pricey! Like most things it will probably come down from it’s initial price. ---
**Author:** ![skatz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/skatz/32/6982_2.png) [@skatz](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/skatz)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 6:03pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/oktober-can-seamer/24286/6 "2016-10-31T18:03:11Z")
All it does is close a can. I understand that demand is low, so price is high, but I don’t see demand ever getting high enough to bring the price down more than 50% which would still be an insane investment. ---
**Author:** ![Philbrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/858c86/32.png) [@Philbrew](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/Philbrew)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 11:26pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/oktober-can-seamer/24286/7 "2016-10-31T23:26:32Z")
> [@](#): > > All it does is close a can. I understand that demand is low, so price is high, but I don’t see demand ever getting high enough to bring the price down more than 50% which would still be an insane investment. And at $.32/can, that adds another $16 - $18 to a batch of homebrew. ---
**Author:** ![huntb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c68b51/32.png) [@huntb](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/huntb)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 1:49pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/oktober-can-seamer/24286/8 "2016-11-01T13:49:08Z")
Hey guys, I’m one of the engineers for Oktober. If you have any questions feel free to ask! We will be designing a new seamer that should be more economical for home brewers but don’t currently have a release date for it. ---
**Author:** ![jonhughey\_att.net](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/jonhughey_att.net/32/6277_2.png) [@jonhughey\_att.net](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/jonhughey_att.net)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 2:04pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/oktober-can-seamer/24286/9 "2016-11-01T14:04:13Z")
> [@huntb](#): > > Hey guys, I’m one of the engineers for Oktober. If you have any questions feel free to ask! We will be designing a new seamer that should be more economical for home brewers but don’t currently have a release date for it. > > Sent from my HTC6545LVW using Tapatalk Likely out of my price range, but just curious - how efficient at preventing O2 ingress? ---
**Author:** ![toby](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/toby/32/12343_2.png) [@toby](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/toby)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 6:42pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/oktober-can-seamer/24286/10 "2016-11-01T18:42:40Z")
> [@Philbrew](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > All it does is close a can. I understand that demand is low, so price is high, but I don’t see demand ever getting high enough to bring the price down more than 50% which would still be an insane investment. > > And at $.32/can, that adds another $16 - $18 to a batch of homebrew. New bottles are about $0.50 per, not including crowns. IMO, people who are getting one of these are not going to be canning an entire batch. It’s more for homebrewers who are already spending a lot of coin or small brewpubs that want to can small or one off things. > [@](#): > > Likely out of my price range, but just curious - how efficient at preventing O2 ingress? All dependent on your process really. Use a beer gun, purge, and ‘cap’ on foam, and I don’t see you picking up a significant amount of oxygen. ---
**Author:** ![jonhughey\_att.net](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/jonhughey_att.net/32/6277_2.png) [@jonhughey\_att.net](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/jonhughey_att.net)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 6:51pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/oktober-can-seamer/24286/11 "2016-11-01T18:51:41Z")
> [@toby](#): > > All dependent on your process really. Use a beer gun, purge, and ‘cap’ on foam, and I don’t see you picking up a significant amount of oxygen. Yeah, I was more curious if the thing is even equipped to purge at all. Don’t get me wrong, not looking to buy one. I’ll take my Beer Gun any day. ---
**Author:** ![denny](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/denny/32/13092_2.png) [@denny](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/denny)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 6:52pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/oktober-can-seamer/24286/12 "2016-11-01T18:52:27Z")
We have a mobile canner that comes through, sets up at a brewery, and will can 5 gal. of homebrew for $25.  For $1500, you could can 60 batches… ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/original/1X/f1a2211dcb353b921ed70873794a31db2031eccc.png) [@system](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 7:01pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/oktober-can-seamer/24286/13 "2016-11-01T19:01:44Z")
> [@toby](#): > > All dependent on your process really. Use a beer gun, purge, and ‘cap’ on foam, and I don’t see you picking up a significant amount of oxygen. I’ll be the guy 🙂 Do you have DO readings to confirm that? With my “methods” best I was able to to is .44ppm DO, which does not meet the .015ppm maximum. ---
**Author:** ![toby](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/toby/32/12343_2.png) [@toby](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/toby)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 7:44pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/oktober-can-seamer/24286/14 "2016-11-01T19:44:02Z")
> [@](#): > > Yeah, I was more curious if the thing is even equipped to purge at all. Don’t get me wrong, not looking to buy one. I’ll take my Beer Gun any day. It’s only a seamer. It does not fill the cans. It’s very similar to the crowler machines that cost $3000+. > [@denny](#): > > We have a mobile canner that comes through, sets up at a brewery, and will can 5 gal. of homebrew for $25.  For $1500, you could can 60 batches… How much for them to come by and can 1 or 2? Or a six pack? In Louisiana? 😉 > [@](#): > > I’ll be the guy 🙂 Do you have DO readings to confirm that? Nope. I do not. But then again, I don’t have DO readings for bottles either to compare it to. I’m also not packaging anything to let it sit for more than a week or two. I only package to share with friends or enter competitions. [quote]With my “methods” best I was able to to is .44ppm DO, which does not meet the .015ppm maximum. [/quote] Methods of what? Canning? Bottling? ---
**Author:** ![jonhughey\_att.net](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/jonhughey_att.net/32/6277_2.png) [@jonhughey\_att.net](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/jonhughey_att.net)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 7:49pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/oktober-can-seamer/24286/15 "2016-11-01T19:49:35Z")
> [@toby](#): > > It’s only a seamer. It does not fill the cans. It’s very similar to the crowler machines that cost $3000+. Yep, wrong assumption on my part. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/original/1X/f1a2211dcb353b921ed70873794a31db2031eccc.png) [@system](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 7:51pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/oktober-can-seamer/24286/16 "2016-11-01T19:51:10Z")
> [@toby](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > Yeah, I was more curious if the thing is even equipped to purge at all. Don’t get me wrong, not looking to buy one. I’ll take my Beer Gun any day. > > It’s only a seamer. It does not fill the cans. It’s very similar to the crowler machines that cost $3000+. > > > [@denny](#): > > > > We have a mobile canner that comes through, sets up at a brewery, and will can 5 gal. of homebrew for $25.  For $1500, you could can 60 batches… > > How much for them to come by and can 1 or 2? Or a six pack? In Louisiana? 😉 > > > [@](#): > > > > I’ll be the guy 🙂 Do you have DO readings to confirm that? > > Nope. I do not. But then again, I don’t have DO readings for bottles either to compare it to. I’m also not packaging anything to let it sit for more than a week or two. I only package to share with friends or enter competitions. > > [quote]With my “methods” best I was able to to is .44ppm DO, which does not meet the .015ppm maximum. Methods of what? Canning? Bottling? [/quote] Bottling with a beergun. ---
**Author:** ![toby](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/toby/32/12343_2.png) [@toby](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/toby)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 8:06pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/oktober-can-seamer/24286/17 "2016-11-01T20:06:45Z")
> [@](#): > > Bottling with a beergun. Ah, well, when I make a future ‘extravagant’ purchase again, it’s likely to be a DO meter. The real question is that is there a method available at the homebrew scale that will allow that low of a pickup from packaging in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![denny](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/denny/32/13092_2.png) [@denny](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/denny)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 8:32pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/oktober-can-seamer/24286/18 "2016-11-01T20:32:38Z")
> [@toby](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > Bottling with a beergun. > > Ah, well, when I make a future ‘extravagant’ purchase again, it’s likely to be a DO meter. The real question is that is there a method available at the homebrew scale that will allow that low of a pickup from packaging in the first place. Why not just use your tastebuds? ---
**Author:** ![toby](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/toby/32/12343_2.png) [@toby](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/toby)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 8:41pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/oktober-can-seamer/24286/19 "2016-11-01T20:41:29Z")
> [@denny](#): > > > [@toby](#): > > > > > [@](#): > > > > > > Bottling with a beergun. > > > > Ah, well, when I make a future ‘extravagant’ purchase again, it’s likely to be a DO meter. The real question is that is there a method available at the homebrew scale that will allow that low of a pickup from packaging in the first place. > > Why not just use your tastebuds? lol those work fine for the purposes that I package. But I also like gadgets that help me improve my skills and process. It’s part of the fun of it for me. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/original/1X/f1a2211dcb353b921ed70873794a31db2031eccc.png) [@system](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 8:56pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/oktober-can-seamer/24286/20 "2016-11-01T20:56:07Z")
> [@toby](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > Bottling with a beergun. > > Ah, well, when I make a future ‘extravagant’ purchase again, it’s likely to be a DO meter. The real question is that is there a method available at the homebrew scale that will allow that low of a pickup from packaging in the first place. A counter pressure bottle filler, with an added valve hooked up to a vacuum pump. Do a triple cycle of vacuum/purge with co2. Then cap on foam. [Next page](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/oktober-can-seamer/24286.md?page=2)