# oxygen cleaners **URL:** \ **Category:** General Homebrew Discussion\ **Created:** [November 15, 2015, 1:18am UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/oxygen-cleaners/21602 "2015-11-15T01:18:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![pete\_baker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/pete_baker/32/5190_2.png) [@pete\_baker](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/pete_baker)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 7:47pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/oxygen-cleaners/21602/21 "2015-11-16T19:47:32Z")
I have always used One Step because it was what I was first introduced to. It works great for me but I’ll probably try the alkaline cleaner sometime. ---
**Author:** ![Joel5000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a183cd/32.png) [@Joel5000](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/Joel5000)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 7:10pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/oxygen-cleaners/21602/22 "2015-11-17T19:10:21Z")
You count me as another fan of the Craftmeister Alkaline Brewery Wash.  I run it in my fermentors for about 20 minutes using a keg and carboy washer, and they come out sparkling.  I also let it sit in my tap lines for about 20 minutes after a keg kicks, and it really cleans them up nice.  I always follow-up with a clean water, then Saniclean rinse. The ABW is REALLY harsh on the hands, though.  I now make sure that I am wearing gloves when I use it. ---
**Author:** ![yugamrap](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/yugamrap/32/12806_2.png) [@yugamrap](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/yugamrap)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 9:03pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/oxygen-cleaners/21602/23 "2015-11-17T21:03:46Z")
I see that the Alkaline Brewery Wash is not recommended for use on soft metals like aluminum or zinc.  Does anyone know if it’s okay on brass or copper?  I have a copper dip tubes in my kettles, and some brass valves and QDs, ---
**Author:** ![wort-h.o.g](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/wort-h.o.g/32/11975_2.png) [@wort-h.o.g](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/wort-h.o.g)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 9:40pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/oxygen-cleaners/21602/24 "2015-11-17T21:40:44Z")
i use just oxy soak overnight and kettle shines. ---
**Author:** ![Whiskers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ea5d25/32.png) [@Whiskers](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/Whiskers)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 10:10pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/oxygen-cleaners/21602/25 "2015-11-17T22:10:05Z")
> [@yugamrap](#): > > I see that the Alkaline Brewery Wash is not recommended for use on soft metals like aluminum or zinc.  Does anyone know if it’s okay on brass or copper?  I have a copper dip tubes in my kettles, and some brass valves and QDs, Copper OK, brass no. ---
**Author:** ![Whiskers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ea5d25/32.png) [@Whiskers](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/Whiskers)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2015, 3:56am UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/oxygen-cleaners/21602/26 "2015-11-18T03:56:55Z")
I think they add the sesquicarbonate is washing soda bound to baking soda.  It is more soluble in cold water than washing soda.  Perhaps a homemade mix could be made simply and effectively. ---
**Author:** ![denny](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/denny/32/13092_2.png) [@denny](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/denny)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2015, 4:52pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/oxygen-cleaners/21602/27 "2015-11-18T16:52:58Z")
> [@yugamrap](#): > > I see that the Alkaline Brewery Wash is not recommended for use on soft metals like aluminum or zinc.  Does anyone know if it’s okay on brass or copper?  I have a copper dip tubes in my kettles, and some brass valves and QDs, Neither is the Oxygen wash, PBW, or Oxiclean.  I’ve had no problems with copper. ---
**Author:** ![denny](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/denny/32/13092_2.png) [@denny](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/denny)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2015, 4:53pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/oxygen-cleaners/21602/28 "2015-11-18T16:53:43Z")
> [@Whiskers](#): > > I think they add the sesquicarbonate is washing soda bound to baking soda.  It is more soluble in cold water than washing soda.  Perhaps a homemade mix could be made simply and effectively. I think you should ask them rather than speculate. ---
**Author:** ![Whiskers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ea5d25/32.png) [@Whiskers](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/Whiskers)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2015, 11:22pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/oxygen-cleaners/21602/29 "2015-11-18T23:22:32Z")
> [@denny](#): > > > [@Whiskers](#): > > > > I think they add the sesquicarbonate is washing soda bound to baking soda.  It is more soluble in cold water than washing soda.  Perhaps a homemade mix could be made simply and effectively. > > I think you should ask them rather than speculate. I didn’t speculate - I did some research on the chemical and its use in cleaning products.  Regardless of why that company in particular includes it, the cold water solubility is a property and a motivation for it’s inclusion in general.  The mds makes the ratios of the other chemicals fairly transparent. ---
**Author:** ![Craft\_Meister](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/craft_meister/32/9640_2.png) [@Craft\_Meister](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/Craft_Meister)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2015, 10:50pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/oxygen-cleaners/21602/30 "2015-11-24T22:50:51Z")
> [@denny](#): > > Nope, you’re not.  The alkaline kicks butt.  It works better mixed with cold water than PBW does in hot water.  When you put the alkaline in hot water it’s truly remarkable.  But not everyone wants to use an alkaline cleaner.  The Oxygen cleaner still works better than PBW.  They source their percarbonate from the chemical industry, not the laundry industry, and it dissolves at a lower temp than PBW. Denny has it right! Any questions regarding Craft Meister, private message me.  Better yet, try it for yourself. [Previous page](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/oxygen-cleaners/21602.md?page=1)