# Promash? **URL:** \ **Category:** Brewing Processes\ **Created:** [April 10, 2023, 12:11am UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/promash/32807 "2023-04-10T00:11:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![soymateofeo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/soymateofeo/32/12336_2.png) [@soymateofeo](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/soymateofeo)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2023, 12:11am UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/promash/32807/1 "2023-04-10T00:11:25Z")
Old guys! Does anybody know who designed promash?  And does anybody still use it?  I moved on to beersmith but was just wondering about that program. ---
**Author:** ![BrewBama](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/brewbama/32/21184_2.png) [@BrewBama](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/BrewBama)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2023, 1:50am UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/promash/32807/2 "2023-04-10T01:50:52Z")
Jeff Donovan designed it. I think the last update was ‘03 or something. I use BeerSmith 3 Mobile. ---
**Author:** ![mainebrewer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/mainebrewer/32/19_2.png) [@mainebrewer](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/mainebrewer)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2023, 9:49am UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/promash/32807/3 "2023-04-10T09:49:40Z")
This old guy is still using Promash.  🙂 ---
**Author:** ![3dogbrewer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/3dogbrewer/32/5680_2.png) [@3dogbrewer](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/3dogbrewer)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2023, 1:27pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/promash/32807/4 "2023-04-10T13:27:30Z")
Me too. I see no reason to change, yea, I am an old guy. I have been using it for 15 years and I know it well. ---
**Author:** ![profitt\_chartermi.net](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/profitt_chartermi.net/32/20691_2.png) [@profitt\_chartermi.net](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/profitt_chartermi.net)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2023, 2:40pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/promash/32807/5 "2023-04-10T14:40:49Z")
I had just started using Promash a year or two before it ended. It was a rather difficult program to use and I had stacks of printed instructions to do various things that I had found online at the time. Like the OP I ended up with Beersmith (another steep learning curve) and have stuck with that. If I remember correctly the developers wife was diagnosed with cancer and he shelved the software to focus on his family. ---
**Author:** ![jeffy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/jeffy/32/12842_2.png) [@jeffy](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/jeffy)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2023, 2:45pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/promash/32807/6 "2023-04-10T14:45:28Z")
I still have the 3 floppy discs it came on, but I’ve been using beersmith for a long time. ---
**Author:** ![denny](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/denny/32/13092_2.png) [@denny](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/denny)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2023, 2:55pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/promash/32807/7 "2023-04-10T14:55:36Z")
I still use some of the functions it and I compare recipes written in other apps to see what they look like in PM. It’s still capable, viable,software. ---
**Author:** ![soymateofeo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/soymateofeo/32/12336_2.png) [@soymateofeo](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/soymateofeo)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2023, 6:37am UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/promash/32807/8 "2023-04-11T06:37:00Z")
That’s great.  I was at a lhbs and they had no idea what I was talking about.  I will have to dig it out and see if I can still use it. ---
**Author:** ![mabrungard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/mabrungard/32/12430_2.png) [@mabrungard](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/mabrungard)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 1:30am UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/promash/32807/9 "2023-04-12T01:30:25Z")
I run Promash on an old laptop that I have.  I’m not sure that I could get it to run on the current Windows version.  Has anyone accomplished that? ---
**Author:** ![fredthecat](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/fredthecat/32/9872_2.png) [@fredthecat](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/fredthecat)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 1:46am UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/promash/32807/10 "2023-04-12T01:46:14Z")
> [@mabrungard](#): > > I run Promash on an old laptop that I have.  I’m not sure that I could get it to run on the current Windows version.  Has anyone accomplished that? if it was running on XP, you could get a virtual OS like [https://www.virtualbox.org/](https://www.virtualbox.org/) and install win xp on a virtual partition if not use some simpler and newer virtual OS. im on linux and there are a multitude of programs to run windows programs under different windows versions. the virtualbox thing sounds like a pain but if you are fairly competent with computers you could promash going after an XP install in 20 mins or so. ---
**Author:** ![mainebrewer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/mainebrewer/32/19_2.png) [@mainebrewer](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/mainebrewer)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 10:21am UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/promash/32807/11 "2023-04-12T10:21:31Z")
> [@mabrungard](#): > > I run Promash on an old laptop that I have.  I’m not sure that I could get it to run on the current Windows version.  Has anyone accomplished that? It runs fine under Windows 10, although when I upgraded to Win 10, the “help” function no longer works. I don’t know how it would work under Win 11. ---
**Author:** ![profitt\_chartermi.net](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/profitt_chartermi.net/32/20691_2.png) [@profitt\_chartermi.net](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/profitt_chartermi.net)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 1:20pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/promash/32807/12 "2023-04-12T13:20:52Z")
_I run Promash on an old laptop that I have.  I’m not sure that I could get it to run on the current Windows version.  Has anyone accomplished that?_ I haven’t run it in forever but prompted by your post I just found it on my Windows 11 laptop. It started right up and seems to work fine. ---
**Author:** ![denny](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/denny/32/13092_2.png) [@denny](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/denny)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 2:19pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/promash/32807/13 "2023-04-12T14:19:21Z")
> [@mabrungard](#): > > I run Promash on an old laptop that I have.  I’m not sure that I could get it to run on the current Windows version.  Has anyone accomplished that? I’m running it on Win10 ---
**Author:** ![denny](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/denny/32/13092_2.png) [@denny](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/denny)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 2:20pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/promash/32807/14 "2023-04-12T14:20:21Z")
> [@mainebrewer](#): > > > [@mabrungard](#): > > > > I run Promash on an old laptop that I have.  I’m not sure that I could get it to run on the current Windows version.  Has anyone accomplished that? > > It runs fine under Windows 10, although when I upgraded to Win 10, the “help” function no longer works. I don’t know how it would work under Win 11. Get a program called WinHelp32 and it will read the help files ---
**Author:** ![mainebrewer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/mainebrewer/32/19_2.png) [@mainebrewer](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/mainebrewer)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 4:15pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/promash/32807/15 "2023-04-12T16:15:23Z")
> [@denny](#): > > > [@mainebrewer](#): > > > > > [@mabrungard](#): > > > > > > I run Promash on an old laptop that I have.  I’m not sure that I could get it to run on the current Windows version.  Has anyone accomplished that? > > > > It runs fine under Windows 10, although when I upgraded to Win 10, the “help” function no longer works. I don’t know how it would work under Win 11. > > Get a program called WinHelp32 and it will read the help files > > Thanks, I’ll check that out. ---
**Author:** ![brewthru](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/brewthru/32/19_2.png) [@brewthru](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/brewthru)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2023, 9:49pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/promash/32807/16 "2023-04-14T21:49:51Z")
Unfortunately, ProMash seems dead. I was able to run in a Windows 7 VM (used the free VMware Workstation). However, I’ve now moved onto BeerSmith. IMO, BeerSmith is far better than ProMash. ---
**Author:** ![denny](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/denny/32/13092_2.png) [@denny](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/denny)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2023, 9:51pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/promash/32807/17 "2023-04-14T21:51:43Z")
> [@brewthru](#): > > Unfortunately, ProMash seems dead. I was able to run in a Windows 7 VM (used the free VMware Workstation). > > However, I’ve now moved onto BeerSmith. IMO, BeerSmith is far better than ProMash. I run PM on both Win 7 & 10, no problem.  Nothing special. I’ve always preferred it to Beersmith, and now I pfreer Grainfather software to either. ---
**Author:** ![brewthru](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/brewthru/32/19_2.png) [@brewthru](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/brewthru)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2023, 10:02pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/promash/32807/18 "2023-04-14T22:02:29Z")
Going by memory with the following. I may be incorrectly remembering as it’s been a while since I used ProMash. I don’t believe ProMash is so equipment dependent as BS. I will admit, when I was using ProMash, early 1990’s, I really didn’t know what I was doing. I look at my brewing notes from that time and now think “What was I thinking!”. I copied the 3 ProMash 3.5 floppies onto a USB drive and still the ProMash patch/update in case I ever need it. ---
**Author:** ![3dogbrewer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/3dogbrewer/32/5680_2.png) [@3dogbrewer](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/3dogbrewer)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2023, 10:52am UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/promash/32807/19 "2023-04-15T10:52:28Z")
I use it on Windows 11. It has a couple of minor glitches but nothing big. I basically brew one or two styles of beer and use it to keep a log of how the brews are going. I do the same with my online blog so when my computer crashes like in the past, I have brew sessions to go by. ---
**Author:** ![thirsty\_monk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/thirsty_monk/32/8400_2.png) [@thirsty\_monk](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/thirsty_monk)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2023, 1:47am UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/promash/32807/20 "2023-04-19T01:47:07Z")
> [@denny](#): > > > [@brewthru](#): > > > > Unfortunately, ProMash seems dead. I was able to run in a Windows 7 VM (used the free VMware Workstation). > > > > However, I’ve now moved onto BeerSmith. IMO, BeerSmith is far better than ProMash. > > I run PM on both Win 7 & 10, no problem.  Nothing special. I’ve always preferred it to Beersmith, and now I pfreer Grainfather software to either. I still use it on WIN XP in VM. As you have said it still works great.