# Rice Hulls?

**URL:** <https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/rice-hulls/4575>\
**Category:** Brewing Processes\
**Created:** [January 14, 2011, 2:42am UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/rice-hulls/4575 "2011-01-14T02:42:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![tomsawyer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tomsawyer](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/tomsawyer)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 2:42am UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/rice-hulls/4575/1 "2011-01-14T02:42:15Z")

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Do these work for you?&nbsp; I’ve used them and never thought they did anything but soak up more wort.&nbsp; I don’t get many stuck mashes, and if I do I’ll just stir and vorlauf again.&nbsp; I also have good luck raking the top of the grain bed.

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**Author:** ![cask1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/cask1/32/6063_2.png) [@cask1](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/cask1)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 3:14am UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/rice-hulls/4575/2 "2011-01-14T03:14:05Z")

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If my grain bill is more than 50% wheat, I use rice hulls and have been very happy with the results. No stuck mashes, and I haven’t noticed any reduced wort volume.

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**Author:** ![tygo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/tygo/32/2134_2.png) [@tygo](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/tygo)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 3:32am UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/rice-hulls/4575/3 "2011-01-14T03:32:30Z")

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I bought a big bag of them before I brewed my first CAP with about 25% flaked corn because I thought it would help with the lautering.&nbsp; So I’ve used them for this beer twice now but never for any other beer.&nbsp; I soak in the mash tun with hot water to :&nbsp; 1) Rinse them off, 2) rehydrate them so I don’t absorb a bunch of wort, and 3) preheat the mash tun.&nbsp; Then I run that water off.&nbsp; So I don’t include them in my grain bill for the purposes of determining absorption.

The last time I considered not bothering but since I had them I used them.&nbsp; It worked well and I had a nice easy runoff.&nbsp; But I’m thinking I could probably have gotten away with not bothering.&nbsp; The next time I brew this beer I’ll probably just see how it works without them.

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**Author:** ![realbeerguy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/realbeerguy/32/8843_2.png) [@realbeerguy](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/realbeerguy)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 3:50am UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/rice-hulls/4575/4 "2011-01-14T03:50:41Z")

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Rice Hulls = sparge insurance

I use 2-3 handfulls for every mash, 4-5 when using wheat or rye.

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**Author:** ![denny](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/denny/32/13092_2.png) [@denny](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/denny)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 5:17pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/rice-hulls/4575/5 "2011-01-14T17:17:22Z")

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I’ve never had a stuck runoff, so I’ve never had a reason to use them.

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**Author:** ![beerstache](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/beerstache/32/12219_2.png) [@beerstache](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/beerstache)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 10:32pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/rice-hulls/4575/6 "2011-01-14T22:32:41Z")

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Depends on your crush, too.&nbsp; I get good results when buying from MLHBS, but bought a bag of Canadien malt pre-crushed and it was too fine!&nbsp; A pound of rice hulls did the trick!

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**Author:** ![jeffy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/jeffy/32/12842_2.png) [@jeffy](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/jeffy)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2011, 12:45pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/rice-hulls/4575/7 "2011-01-15T12:45:01Z")

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I made a mistake once with rice hulls.&nbsp; I thought it would be a good idea to put all the hulls into the strike water first and then add the malts.&nbsp; What happened was all the rice hulls sank right to the bottom under the pressure of the malt and immediately clogged up my stainless false bottom, resulting in a seriously stuck mash.&nbsp; I ended up scooping all the mash out into a separate sparge vessel to finish the mash.&nbsp; Next time I think I’ll mix the hulls in with all the grains.

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**Author:** ![pawtucket\_patriot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/pawtucket_patriot/32/8024_2.png) [@pawtucket\_patriot](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/pawtucket_patriot)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2011, 5:13pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/rice-hulls/4575/8 "2011-01-15T17:13:45Z")

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I used them once when I made my first weissbier (about 60% wheat). I wanted to see if they actually made a difference, so I didn’t use them when I next brewed the weissbier. No sparge issues whatsoever.&nbsp; Never used rice hulls since.

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**Author:** ![skyler](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/skyler/32/20702_2.png) [@skyler](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/skyler)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2011, 8:36pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/rice-hulls/4575/9 "2011-01-15T20:36:19Z")

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If I brew with more than 5% unmalted grains or more than 20% wheat or rye, I consider rice hulls insurance.

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**Author:** ![lonnie-mac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/df705f/32.png) [@lonnie-mac](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/lonnie-mac)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2011, 8:49pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/rice-hulls/4575/10 "2011-01-15T20:49:29Z")

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I have never used them. A lot of folks will but I haven’t tried. I even brewed a 100% all-wheat-stout and didn’t need them. Probably wouldn’t have hurt during that brew, but all went pretty well.

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**Author:** ![mabrungard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/mabrungard/32/12430_2.png) [@mabrungard](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/mabrungard)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2011, 11:30pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/rice-hulls/4575/11 "2011-01-15T23:30:51Z")

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> [@jeffy](#):
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> I made a mistake once with rice hulls.&nbsp; I thought it would be a good idea to put all the hulls into the strike water first and then add the malts.&nbsp; What happened was all the rice hulls sank right to the bottom under the pressure of the malt and immediately clogged up my stainless false bottom, resulting in a seriously stuck mash.&nbsp; I ended up scooping all the mash out into a separate sparge vessel to finish the mash.&nbsp; Next time I think I’ll mix the hulls in with all the grains.

Jeff, that is the way that I’ve always done it. Add the hulls first and then mix in the grain.&nbsp; I have a RIMS and always turn off the pump when doughing in.&nbsp; Sorry for the problem.

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**Author:** ![jeffy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/jeffy/32/12842_2.png) [@jeffy](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/jeffy)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2011, 12:39am UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/rice-hulls/4575/12 "2011-01-16T00:39:31Z")

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> [@mabrungard](#):
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> > [@jeffy](#):
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> > I made a mistake once with rice hulls.&nbsp; I thought it would be a good idea to put all the hulls into the strike water first and then add the malts.&nbsp; What happened was all the rice hulls sank right to the bottom under the pressure of the malt and immediately clogged up my stainless false bottom, resulting in a seriously stuck mash.&nbsp; I ended up scooping all the mash out into a separate sparge vessel to finish the mash.&nbsp; Next time I think I’ll mix the hulls in with all the grains.
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> Jeff, that is the way that I’ve always done it. Add the hulls first and then mix in the grain.&nbsp; I have a RIMS and always turn off the pump when doughing in.&nbsp; Sorry for the problem.

Hmmm.&nbsp; Pump wasn’t on yet when that happened.&nbsp; I usually dump all the grain in at once before commencing the stirring.&nbsp; Is that what you do?

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**Author:** ![tomsawyer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tomsawyer](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/tomsawyer)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2011, 12:49am UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/rice-hulls/4575/13 "2011-01-16T00:49:26Z")

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If you stir then why would it matter?

After posing this question, I decided to brew a rye APA this morning (20% rye malt).&nbsp; I used a handful of hulls just for insurance and of course everything ran off just fine.

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**Author:** ![jeffy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/jeffy/32/12842_2.png) [@jeffy](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/jeffy)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2011, 12:59am UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/rice-hulls/4575/14 "2011-01-16T00:59:41Z")

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> [@tomsawyer](#):
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> If you stir then why would it matter?

'Just trying to figure out why it stuck so bad when I did it that way.&nbsp; I certainly won’t do it exactly the same the next time.

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**Author:** ![mabrungard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/mabrungard/32/12430_2.png) [@mabrungard](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/mabrungard)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2011, 4:25pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/rice-hulls/4575/15 "2011-01-16T16:25:29Z")

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I do dough in slowly and mix all the while.&nbsp; I’m pretty sure the hulls are interspersed.

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**Author:** ![tomsawyer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tomsawyer](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/tomsawyer)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2011, 5:57pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/rice-hulls/4575/16 "2011-01-16T17:57:25Z")

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In thinking about it, its probably better to add them in such a way that they get well mixed into the grist.&nbsp; They’re basically replacing the husks on grain that have none.&nbsp; Having them at the bottom means you have a cake of stuff above that won’t let wort through.&nbsp; When interspersed they allow the mash cake to be porous.

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**Author:** ![podo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/podo/32/6664_2.png) [@podo](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/podo)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 2:53am UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/rice-hulls/4575/17 "2011-01-21T02:53:32Z")

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i used them occasionally when brewing with wheat or rye, but ever since I learned about malt conditioning on this site, IMO they are no longer necessary.

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**Author:** ![majorvices](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/majorvices/32/12825_2.png) [@majorvices](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/majorvices)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 3:10am UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/rice-hulls/4575/18 "2011-01-21T03:10:12Z")

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> [@denny](#):
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> I’ve never had a stuck runoff, so I’ve never had a reason to use them.

+1. I brew a beer with 50% wheat very regularly (weekly in fact) and never use them and never have a problem. That said, YMMV. 😉

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**Author:** ![bearcat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3ec8ea/32.png) [@bearcat](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/bearcat)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 3:19pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/rice-hulls/4575/19 "2011-01-21T15:19:27Z")

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> [@podo](#):
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> i used them occasionally when brewing with wheat or rye, but ever since I learned about malt conditioning on this site, IMO they are no longer necessary.

+.5 &nbsp;-should clarify I use a sabco keg with their false bottom…&nbsp; I went from Denny’s cooler method so I could direct fire my MT.&nbsp; Didn’t need them with Denny’s setup as well.&nbsp; I have a big bag just sitting there #5pounds is huge… maybe if I forget to malt condition someday I will need them again in a panic.

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**Author:** ![boganbrewer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8797f3/32.png) [@boganbrewer](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/boganbrewer)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2011, 2:15pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/rice-hulls/4575/20 "2011-02-02T14:15:06Z")

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I use rice hulls in almost all my brews because they greatly improve the circulation in my mash tun.

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