# Should we avoid bottle conditioned beer? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Homebrew Discussion\ **Created:** [September 17, 2013, 9:57pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/should-we-avoid-bottle-conditioned-beer/14671 "2013-09-17T21:57:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![skatz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/skatz/32/6982_2.png) [@skatz](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/skatz)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2013, 9:57pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/should-we-avoid-bottle-conditioned-beer/14671/1 "2013-09-17T21:57:10Z")
> **[Auto-Brewery Syndrome: Apparently, You Can Make Beer In Your Gut](https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2013/09/17/223345977/auto-brewery-syndrome-apparently-you-can-make-beer-in-your-gut)** > > A Texas man walked into the emergency room, complaining of dizziness after a meal. A Breathalyzer test indicated that he was definitely drunk. But there was one hitch: He hadn't touched alcohol all day. ---
**Author:** ![erockrph](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/erockrph/32/13330_2.png) [@erockrph](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/erockrph)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2013, 10:28pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/should-we-avoid-bottle-conditioned-beer/14671/2 "2013-09-17T22:28:51Z")
I think if we ever had a S. cerevesia infection in the hospital I’d ask the lab if they could prop up a slant for me… ---
**Author:** ![jonhughey\_att.net](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/jonhughey_att.net/32/6277_2.png) [@jonhughey\_att.net](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/jonhughey_att.net)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2013, 10:33pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/should-we-avoid-bottle-conditioned-beer/14671/3 "2013-09-17T22:33:45Z")
Good thing it’s as uncommon as it is.  There’s been a small fortune worth of bottled Belgians pass through me over the years ! ---
**Author:** ![morticaixavier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb9ed0/32.png) [@morticaixavier](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/morticaixavier)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2013, 10:34pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/should-we-avoid-bottle-conditioned-beer/14671/4 "2013-09-17T22:34:51Z")
who says it has to be bottle conditioned? if it’s not sterile filtered or pasteurized there is still live yeast in there. I think we should avoid antibiotics instead of beer. ---
**Author:** ![klickitat\_jim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/klickitat_jim/32/6601_2.png) [@klickitat\_jim](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/klickitat_jim)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2013, 10:37pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/should-we-avoid-bottle-conditioned-beer/14671/5 "2013-09-17T22:37:08Z")
Oy vey! DUI is .08. But it’s not percent even though some signs say that. Breath alcohol is measured in grams per decalitre or .08 grams in a decalitre of breath. The measurements are close though, or so I’m told. FYI, .3 would be dead or comatose for most people, so IF this guy stumbled in and said anything understandable, he’s a hard core conditioned drunk. The amount of beer one would half to brew in their gut to get to that level wouldn’t fit. If he weight 100 lbs he’d need 120 ounces of 4.5% in an hour to get there. ---
**Author:** ![jonhughey\_att.net](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/jonhughey_att.net/32/6277_2.png) [@jonhughey\_att.net](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/jonhughey_att.net)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2013, 10:42pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/should-we-avoid-bottle-conditioned-beer/14671/6 "2013-09-17T22:42:42Z")
> [@morticaixavier](#): > > who says it has to be bottle conditioned? if it’s not sterile filtered or pasteurized there is still live yeast in there. > > I think we should avoid antibiotics instead of beer. +1 on the antibiotics.  The amount of antibiotics we ingest from meat. eggs, milk etc. is scary.  Kind of lessens the effectiveness of antibiotics we actually need. ---
**Author:** ![morticaixavier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb9ed0/32.png) [@morticaixavier](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/morticaixavier)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2013, 10:43pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/should-we-avoid-bottle-conditioned-beer/14671/7 "2013-09-17T22:43:34Z")
> [@klickitat\_jim](#): > > Oy vey! > DUI is .08. But it’s not percent even though some signs say that. Breath alcohol is measured in grams per decalitre or .08 grams in a decalitre of breath. > The measurements are close though, or so I’m told. FYI, .3 would be dead or comatose for most people, so IF this guy stumbled in and said anything understandable, he’s a hard core conditioned drunk. The amount of beer one would half to brew in their gut to get to that level wouldn’t fit. If he weight 100 lbs he’d need 120 ounces of 4.5% in an hour to get there. okay  but if un-metabolized alcohol was wafting out of his gut he wouldn’t need that BAC level to blow that level. problem with breathalyzers. ---
**Author:** ![klickitat\_jim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/klickitat_jim/32/6601_2.png) [@klickitat\_jim](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/klickitat_jim)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2013, 10:53pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/should-we-avoid-bottle-conditioned-beer/14671/8 "2013-09-17T22:53:45Z")
Mmmm, ya maybe. But the premise here is he’s not a drinker supposedly. My point is that I slightly doubt he could brew three fortys of old English in his gut and not digest any of it till it’s fully fermented. Then digest it all at once. Breath tests are accurate if the operator does it right. Blood is most accurate, but if breath is administered properly they are very close. Then, if the driver has been all over the road and schmucked a light pole, who’s going to argue a couple of tenths of a gram? ---
**Author:** ![klickitat\_jim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/klickitat_jim/32/6601_2.png) [@klickitat\_jim](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/klickitat_jim)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2013, 11:01pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/should-we-avoid-bottle-conditioned-beer/14671/9 "2013-09-17T23:01:25Z")
Gut brew for 100# guy 2# of fine crushed 2 row Gallon and a half water. Get an infection so your body temp reaches 140° Don’t Pee for two weeks. Sorry guys, lol! ---
**Author:** ![jonhughey\_att.net](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/jonhughey_att.net/32/6277_2.png) [@jonhughey\_att.net](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/jonhughey_att.net)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2013, 11:15pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/should-we-avoid-bottle-conditioned-beer/14671/10 "2013-09-17T23:15:26Z")
;D.  Funny stuff. I say wrap him in an electric blanket set on high, to maintain fermentation temps.  Kind of like a giant Fermwrap. ---
**Author:** ![klickitat\_jim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/klickitat_jim/32/6601_2.png) [@klickitat\_jim](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/klickitat_jim)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2013, 11:36pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/should-we-avoid-bottle-conditioned-beer/14671/11 "2013-09-17T23:36:03Z")
Dambit! 100 ibus in the sinus, not good. It is the part of the moronic story I liked best. Conversion!  Though I suppose he could just drink a gallon of hummingbird food and achieve the same result. You still have the problem of needing a primary stomach to ferment in. And I bet even belly saccromices put off strange esters even at 98° ---
**Author:** ![hobsondrake\_yahoo.com](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/hobsondrake_yahoo.com/32/8194_2.png) [@hobsondrake\_yahoo.com](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/hobsondrake_yahoo.com)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 12:50am UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/should-we-avoid-bottle-conditioned-beer/14671/12 "2013-09-18T00:50:35Z")
No mention of the CO2 that should have been belching up as this was happening. Needs more research if you ask me. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/original/1X/f1a2211dcb353b921ed70873794a31db2031eccc.png) [@system](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/system)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 1:03am UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/should-we-avoid-bottle-conditioned-beer/14671/13 "2013-09-18T01:03:17Z")
Talk about blow off! ---
**Author:** ![theantipunk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/theantipunk/32/6822_2.png) [@theantipunk](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/theantipunk)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 1:51am UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/should-we-avoid-bottle-conditioned-beer/14671/14 "2013-09-18T01:51:17Z")
> [@](#): > > No mention of the CO2 that should have been belching up as this was happening. > Needs more research if you ask me. I’d be more worried by blowoff from the other end… ---
**Author:** ![dmtaylor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/dmtaylor/32/9644_2.png) [@dmtaylor](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/dmtaylor)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 11:10am UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/should-we-avoid-bottle-conditioned-beer/14671/15 "2013-09-18T11:10:30Z")
I was thinking the same thing.  This guy must be belching and farting some horrendous stenches, and if not, he is bound to explode at some point. ---
**Author:** ![reverseapachemaster](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/reverseapachemaster/32/19_2.png) [@reverseapachemaster](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/reverseapachemaster)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 1:58pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/should-we-avoid-bottle-conditioned-beer/14671/16 "2013-09-18T13:58:35Z")
I guess it’s possible that he had way too much yeast and a combination of a carb-rich diet, poor digestion and a buildup of starch in the colon could result in the production of a decent amount of alcohol. Your colon has a lot of blood vessels so it’s very easy to get wasted from alcohol in there. Google wine enema. Still, the story seems like a stretch. If this guy was a homebrewer then he definitely should have figured this one out, especially after he turned his butthole into an airlock. ---
**Author:** ![erockrph](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/erockrph/32/13330_2.png) [@erockrph](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/erockrph)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 2:25pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/should-we-avoid-bottle-conditioned-beer/14671/17 "2013-09-18T14:25:31Z")
I always thought White Labs vials looked like they should be shooters. I just didn’t realize the optimal chaser is a plate of pasta. ---
**Author:** ![duncan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/duncan/32/3305_2.png) [@duncan](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/duncan)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 2:51pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/should-we-avoid-bottle-conditioned-beer/14671/18 "2013-09-18T14:51:34Z")
> [@reverseapachemaster](#): > > I guess it’s possible that he had way too much yeast and a combination of a carb-rich diet, poor digestion and a buildup of starch in the colon could result in the production of a decent amount of alcohol. Your colon has a lot of blood vessels so it’s very easy to get wasted from alcohol in there. Google wine enema. > > Still, the story seems like a stretch. If this guy was a homebrewer then he definitely should have figured this one out, especially after he turned his butthole into an airlock. Pro tip: don’t google wine enema. ---
**Author:** ![erockrph](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/erockrph/32/13330_2.png) [@erockrph](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/erockrph)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 3:24pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/should-we-avoid-bottle-conditioned-beer/14671/19 "2013-09-18T15:24:47Z")
> [@duncan](#): > > > [@reverseapachemaster](#): > > > > I guess it’s possible that he had way too much yeast and a combination of a carb-rich diet, poor digestion and a buildup of starch in the colon could result in the production of a decent amount of alcohol. Your colon has a lot of blood vessels so it’s very easy to get wasted from alcohol in there. Google wine enema. > > > > Still, the story seems like a stretch. If this guy was a homebrewer then he definitely should have figured this one out, especially after he turned his butthole into an airlock. > > Pro tip: don’t google wine enema. +1.069 ---
**Author:** ![jrdunne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/jrdunne/32/4550_2.png) [@jrdunne](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/jrdunne)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 4:17pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/should-we-avoid-bottle-conditioned-beer/14671/20 "2013-09-18T16:17:41Z")
> [@duncan](#): > > Pro tip: don’t google wine enema. Thank you.  I won’t. I’d like to think I learned my lesson on the beaver anus thread.  My search history is probably pretty disturbing for whomever is checking on it at the NSA. [Next page](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/should-we-avoid-bottle-conditioned-beer/14671.md?page=2)