# Stuck Fermentation

**URL:** <https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/stuck-fermentation/25894>\
**Category:** Ingredients\
**Created:** [July 14, 2017, 2:28am UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/stuck-fermentation/25894 "2017-07-14T02:28:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![Pelican\_Brewer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/71e660/32.png) [@Pelican\_Brewer](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/Pelican_Brewer)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 2:28am UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/stuck-fermentation/25894/1 "2017-07-14T02:28:34Z")

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Brewed a Belgian Dubel on June 22 and pitched 1 pouch of Wyeast 1214 with 1.080 OG (I know 1 pouch was not enough, my mistake) everything was going fine and 4 or 5 days later fermentation shutdown. Took a gravity reading and it stalled at 1.040. Went to LHBS, no wy1214, but they had wy1762, so I added that and no activity. Tried to oxygenate again with air pump and added Safbrew S-33 and no activity. All the while gravity is still at 1.040. Out of desperation I ordered an oxygen regular and bottle of oxygen etc. Gave it a good 45 seconds of oxygen and pitched another wy1214 last night and still no activity. All appropriate sanitation procedures followed and no infection present as far as I can tell. I have it in a 6.5 gallon glass carboy and maintaining about 68 to 70 degrees. Not sure what to do next. Is it a lost batch? Any Ideas how to get fermentation going again?

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**Author:** ![skatz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/skatz/32/6982_2.png) [@skatz](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/skatz)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 3:22am UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/stuck-fermentation/25894/2 "2017-07-14T03:22:44Z")

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Recipe?

Bad news, that beer is likely toast. All that oxygen so late was a bad move. Sorry.

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**Author:** ![flars](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/flars/32/10286_2.png) [@flars](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/flars)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 5:30am UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/stuck-fermentation/25894/3 "2017-07-14T05:30:04Z")

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Did you use a refractometer or hydrometer for specific gravity?

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**Author:** ![Pelican\_Brewer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/71e660/32.png) [@Pelican\_Brewer](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/Pelican_Brewer)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 1:12pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/stuck-fermentation/25894/4 "2017-07-14T13:12:32Z")

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Used a hydrometer for readings, I have taken four and all have been 1.040. This one may go down as a learning experience. Any other advice would be appreciated.

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**Author:** ![Pelican\_Brewer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/71e660/32.png) [@Pelican\_Brewer](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/Pelican_Brewer)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 1:20pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/stuck-fermentation/25894/5 "2017-07-14T13:20:17Z")

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Here’s the recipe, I know this is not traditional, but LHBS didn’t have exactly what I wanted so I punted. This is what led me to buy a grain mill. We have a great LHBS but they can’t carry everything and sometimes i don’t plan ahead enough.

5.50 gal&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Missoula Montana&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Water&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;  
1.10 tbsp&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; PH 5.2 Stabilizer (Mash 60.0 mins)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Water Agent&nbsp; 2&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;  
12 lbs&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Pale Malt, Maris Otter (3.0 SRM)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Grain&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 3&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 76.2 %&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;  
1 lbs 8.0 oz&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Acid Malt (3.0 SRM)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Grain&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 4&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 9.5 %&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;  
1 lbs&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Caramel/Crystal Malt - 80L (75.0 SRM)&nbsp; &nbsp; Grain&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 6.3 %&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;  
8.0 oz&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Cara-Pils/Dextrine (2.0 SRM)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Grain&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 6&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 3.2 %&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;  
4.0 oz&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Chocolate Malt (350.0 SRM)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Grain&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1.6 %&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;  
8.0 oz&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Candi Sugar, Dark (275.0 SRM)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Sugar&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 8&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 3.2 %&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;  
0.75 oz&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Goldings, B.C. [5.10 %] - Boil 60.0 min&nbsp; Hop&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 9&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 10.5 IBUs&nbsp; &nbsp;  
0.50 oz&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Goldings, B.C. [5.10 %] - Boil 30.0 min&nbsp; Hop&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 10&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 5.4 IBUs&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;  
0.28 tsp&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Irish Moss (Boil 10.0 mins)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Fining&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 11&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;  
0.50 oz&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Willamette [5.60 %] - Boil 10.0 min&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Hop&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 12&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 2.8 IBUs

Any thoughts on the recipe?

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**Author:** ![jrdunne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/jrdunne/32/4550_2.png) [@jrdunne](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/jrdunne)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 4:08pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/stuck-fermentation/25894/6 "2017-07-14T16:08:03Z")

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Pull a sample and do a FFT to see what happens.&nbsp; It is helpful.

If there’s further to ferment based on the FFT, rouse the yeast.&nbsp; Warm it up.&nbsp; Give it some time.

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**Author:** ![skatz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/skatz/32/6982_2.png) [@skatz](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/skatz)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 5:33pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/stuck-fermentation/25894/7 "2017-07-14T17:33:38Z")

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Nothing in the grain bill is too concerning. What was the mash temp? 10% acid malt is quite a bit, is your water very hard?

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**Author:** ![Pelican\_Brewer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/71e660/32.png) [@Pelican\_Brewer](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/Pelican_Brewer)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2017, 4:32am UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/stuck-fermentation/25894/8 "2017-07-15T04:32:21Z")

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Mash temp wash 156. Acid malt was to add a slight sour note. Missoula Montana has a has hard water and the latest water report I saw it has a PH of 7.4 with a distinct chlorine taste. I now filter my water with a charcoal filter. Thanks for the advice Joe Sr. will try that.

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**Author:** ![Andor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a698b9/32.png) [@Andor](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/Andor)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2017, 2:24pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/stuck-fermentation/25894/9 "2017-07-15T14:24:51Z")

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5.2 stabilizer is pretty much useless from what I’ve seen&nbsp; and 10% acid malt likely dropped your ph way lower than optimal range. That wouldn’t explain the stuck fermentation 100% but I had a batch where I came in way low on my mash ph and got much lower attenuation than I had in past batches of the same recipe.

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**Author:** ![chumley](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/chumley/32/12153_2.png) [@chumley](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/chumley)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2017, 10:34pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/stuck-fermentation/25894/10 "2017-07-15T22:34:12Z")

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> [@Pelican\_Brewer](#):
>
> Here’s the recipe, I know this is not traditional, but LHBS didn’t have exactly what I wanted so I punted. This is what led me to buy a grain mill. We have a great LHBS but they can’t carry everything and sometimes i don’t plan ahead enough.
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> 5.50 gal&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Missoula Montana&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Water&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;  
> …

Aha!&nbsp; I think we have found the culprit.&nbsp; Missoula water is known to be contaminated with extremely high levels of patchouli.&nbsp; That would certainly inhibit any right thinking Trappist yeast…&nbsp; ;D
