# WLP090 San Diego Super Yeast **URL:** \ **Category:** Ingredients\ **Created:** [June 27, 2011, 5:44pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/wlp090-san-diego-super-yeast/6849 "2011-06-27T17:44:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![tonyp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/tonyp/32/12198_2.png) [@tonyp](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/tonyp)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2011, 5:44pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/wlp090-san-diego-super-yeast/6849/1 "2011-06-27T17:44:08Z")
new strain from white labs [WLP090 San Diego Super Yeast](http://www.whitelabs.com/beer/new_strain.html) ---
**Author:** ![hopfenundmalz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/hopfenundmalz/32/11193_2.png) [@hopfenundmalz](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/hopfenundmalz)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2011, 5:56pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/wlp090-san-diego-super-yeast/6849/2 "2011-06-27T17:56:45Z")
That was in the White Labs newsletter at the NHC.  There it is called a California Ale Yeast on steroids.  “Strong fermenter that can be done in 3 days.” Might have to try it someday. ---
**Author:** ![tankdeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@tankdeer](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/tankdeer)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2011, 7:41pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/wlp090-san-diego-super-yeast/6849/3 "2011-06-27T19:41:02Z")
Saw this at NHC as well. Definitely going to have to try it out ---
**Author:** ![scooter2374](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/91b2a8/32.png) [@scooter2374](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/scooter2374)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2011, 8:01pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/wlp090-san-diego-super-yeast/6849/4 "2011-06-27T20:01:50Z")
The head brewer at my LBS is going to try something with this. I can’t wait to see what he comes up with ---
**Author:** ![wamille](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b3f665/32.png) [@wamille](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/wamille)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 12:34am UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/wlp090-san-diego-super-yeast/6849/5 "2011-06-28T00:34:40Z")
What online brewing stores are selling this?  I would love to get this in South Korea!!! ---
**Author:** ![hoser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/90ced4/32.png) [@hoser](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/hoser)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 1:56am UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/wlp090-san-diego-super-yeast/6849/6 "2011-06-28T01:56:38Z")
What are the odds that this is a local propietary strain, i.e. Stone? ---
**Author:** ![tankdeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@tankdeer](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/tankdeer)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 2:00am UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/wlp090-san-diego-super-yeast/6849/7 "2011-06-28T02:00:23Z")
> [@hoser](#): > > What are the odds that this is a local propietary strain, i.e. Stone? Stone is, or is very close to WLP007 (and certainly nowhere near WLP001, which this is supposed to be very close to). Some are saying it’s Port, but I dunno if I buy that. ---
**Author:** ![euge](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/brewersassociation/user_avatar/forum.homebrewersassociation.org/euge/32/5060_2.png) [@euge](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/euge)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 2:03am UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/wlp090-san-diego-super-yeast/6849/8 "2011-06-28T02:03:32Z")
Doesn’t Stone ferment their brews at 73f? ---
**Author:** ![tankdeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@tankdeer](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/tankdeer)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 2:06am UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/wlp090-san-diego-super-yeast/6849/9 "2011-06-28T02:06:23Z")
> [@euge](#): > > Doesn’t Stone ferment their brews at 73f? Wouldn’t surprise me. Stone also has 360 bbl fermenters and can get away with things like that. ---
**Author:** ![hoser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/90ced4/32.png) [@hoser](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/hoser)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 3:14am UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/wlp090-san-diego-super-yeast/6849/10 "2011-06-28T03:14:48Z")
> [@tankdeer](#): > > > [@hoser](#): > > > > What are the odds that this is a local propietary strain, i.e. Stone? > > Stone is, or is very close to WLP007 (and certainly nowhere near WLP001, which this is supposed to be very close to). Some are saying it’s Port, but I dunno if I buy that. Fermentation temps are base on the size and shape of the fermermenter.  Commercial breweries can ferment warmer than homebrewers because of pressure on the yeast in the cone surpressing esters and fusels.  Not sure if it is Stone’s yeast or not, just a theory.  I know White Labs propagates Stone’s yeast.  Could be another local yeast, Port, Alesmith, etc. Ballast Point may be the logical option since that is how Chris White got started, now that I think about it. ---
**Author:** ![hoser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/90ced4/32.png) [@hoser](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/hoser)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 3:32am UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/wlp090-san-diego-super-yeast/6849/11 "2011-06-28T03:32:18Z")
I dunno, it seems to me that the characteristics of this yeast are closer to an English strain of yeast than Chico.  Especially with the flocculation being medium to high.  That is why I was thinking Stone because WLP007 is like WLP001 and WLP002 had a child on Ritalin.  It generally attenuates out to 80% in 3 days, ferments in the high 60’s, and flocs out like a brick in the fermenter, which it sounds like WLP090 does as well. ---
**Author:** ![ehall11\_cox.net](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/65b543/32.png) [@ehall11\_cox.net](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/ehall11_cox.net)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 4:22pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/wlp090-san-diego-super-yeast/6849/12 "2011-06-28T16:22:38Z")
Stone told me that they basically started off with WLP002 and to use that if I want to replicate their brews… I haven’t used 007, so I can’t say for sure… but they’ve been pretty good about giving up recipe info aside from AB… ---
**Author:** ![tankdeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@tankdeer](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/tankdeer)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 6:22pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/wlp090-san-diego-super-yeast/6849/13 "2011-06-28T18:22:09Z")
> [@](#): > > but they’ve been pretty good about giving up recipe info aside from AB… Which nobody who enjoys real beer would want anyways.  ;D ---
**Author:** ![morticaixavier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb9ed0/32.png) [@morticaixavier](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/morticaixavier)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 6:24pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/wlp090-san-diego-super-yeast/6849/14 "2011-06-28T18:24:05Z")
> [@tankdeer](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > but they’ve been pretty good about giving up recipe info aside from AB… > > Which nobody who enjoys real beer would want anyways.  ;D I think AB in this context is Arrogant Bastard. ---
**Author:** ![tankdeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@tankdeer](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/tankdeer)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 6:32pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/wlp090-san-diego-super-yeast/6849/15 "2011-06-28T18:32:02Z")
> [@morticaixavier](#): > > > [@tankdeer](#): > > > > > [@](#): > > > > > > but they’ve been pretty good about giving up recipe info aside from AB… > > > > Which nobody who enjoys real beer would want anyways.  ;D > > I think AB in this context is Arrogant Bastard. I’m fully aware of that ---
**Author:** ![morticaixavier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb9ed0/32.png) [@morticaixavier](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/morticaixavier)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 10:35pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/wlp090-san-diego-super-yeast/6849/16 "2011-06-28T22:35:17Z")
> [@tankdeer](#): > > > [@morticaixavier](#): > > > > > [@tankdeer](#): > > > > > > > [@](#): > > > > > > > > but they’ve been pretty good about giving up recipe info aside from AB… > > > > > > Which nobody who enjoys real beer would want anyways.  ;D > > > > I think AB in this context is Arrogant Bastard. > > I’m fully aware of that Ahh, Right, Referencing the label… well just call me mr. dense. ---
**Author:** ![tankdeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@tankdeer](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/tankdeer)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 11:40pm UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/wlp090-san-diego-super-yeast/6849/17 "2011-06-28T23:40:42Z")
> [@morticaixavier](#): > > > [@tankdeer](#): > > > > > [@morticaixavier](#): > > > > > > > [@tankdeer](#): > > > > > > > > > [@](#): > > > > > > > > > > but they’ve been pretty good about giving up recipe info aside from AB… > > > > > > > > Which nobody who enjoys real beer would want anyways.  ;D > > > > > > I think AB in this context is Arrogant Bastard. > > > > I’m fully aware of that > > Ahh, Right, Referencing the label… well just call me mr. dense. Nope, it was actually my feeble attempt to bash Arrogant Bastard, which I think is absolutely vile and disgusting, and easily the worst beer they make. ---
**Author:** ![passlaku](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e47c2d/32.png) [@passlaku](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/passlaku)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 1:38am UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/wlp090-san-diego-super-yeast/6849/18 "2011-06-29T01:38:57Z")
I had AB at the brewery during NHC week and I was astonished to find out that I really liked it.  Prior to this, I had always hated it which makes me think that there packaging is wanting and causes lots of oxidation once it is shipped in the big bomber bottles. ---
**Author:** ![hoser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/90ced4/32.png) [@hoser](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/hoser)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 2:18am UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/wlp090-san-diego-super-yeast/6849/19 "2011-06-29T02:18:23Z")
AB is my all-time favorite beer and I look forward to having it fresh at the brewery next week.  Only had it in the bombers, can’t wait to have it on draft! ---
**Author:** ![tankdeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@tankdeer](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/u/tankdeer)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 3:19am UTC](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/wlp090-san-diego-super-yeast/6849/20 "2011-06-29T03:19:45Z")
> [@passlaku](#): > > I had AB at the brewery during NHC week and I was astonished to find out that I really liked it.  Prior to this, I had always hated it which makes me think that there packaging is wanting and causes lots of oxidation once it is shipped in the big bomber bottles. As a native San Diegan, I’ve had it at the brewery several times, and while I’ll admit that it’s better, I still don’t like it. Taste like they just steeped a bunch of C120 and boiled it with Chinook.  :🙂 > [@hoser](#): > > AB is my all-time favorite beer and I look forward to having it fresh at the brewery next week.  Only had it in the bombers, can’t wait to have it on draft! Ok, you’re a wierdo.  ;D While you’re there, drink something good - like Ruination. Oh and stay away from Greg, he’s the definition of Arrogant. 😛 [Next page](https://forum.homebrewersassociation.org/t/wlp090-san-diego-super-yeast/6849.md?page=2)