4 Restaraunts Where You'll Never Get a Table

Personally, even when I worked a real job, and had the money, I felt sick if Holly and I spent more than 50$ between us on a meal. We could never see the sense in paying that much to eat out. You eat, and a few hours later, you poop, and you’re done. Sure, it may have been an “experience”,but there are a lot of other things we would like to experience for 200$, before a meal. Not knocking anyone of you who does spend that kind of coin for a meal, it;s just not our thing.

It’s kind of like pooping a lot of money and all you can do is flush it down the drain. That “experience” doesn’t leave me with good thoughts. It’s not like I don’t enjoy a good dump, but a $30 one is just as good as a $200 one.

Well said weazletoe.

To be honest, I have some amazing 5$ poops, from the McDonalds value menu!!  ;D

I am right there with ya weaze. Even when I lived in NYC I couldn’t quite get the concept of paying big bucks for, ah, … food.  ???

Good thing for the chef’s not everyone is like me!

In america we think of food as something cheap. We tend to pay much less, around 20% or less, of our income towards food. in much of the rest of the world, ‘developing’ and ‘developed’ that number is closer to 40%, now one could look at this and think that it means america has cheaper food and yippee but I tend to think about the fact that the third most important thing in the world to our health and survival (air and water being numbers 1 and 2) is an area that maybe we shouldn’t scrimp on. This is just my opinion but… I am not defending places that call themselves 5 star and make crappy food served by surly waiters and call that classy.

But I know that a lot of you wouldn’t think of buying maris otter malt rather than domestic malt that is 2/3 the price and that’s just for your beer. why wouldn’t you want the food that nourishes you to be of at least the same quality of the ingredients that go into your beer? If I am going to go out for lunch I look to find a place where I can get a good sandwhich with fresh veg and if it only costs 5 or 6 bucks great! but if it costs 10 bucks because the ingredients are amazing and organic I will do that.

I brew beer with a guy who is a chef in NYC.

Find a chef at any good restaurant and serve them some good homebrew.  They will reciprocate (or come over to cook while you brew).

Got no problem with a good $10 sandwich and you just proved that a healthy meal can be had for far under $200.

Of course it can.  And you can buy a painting at a discount store for a few bucks.  A Monet will cost more.  It’s an individual choice, and just because one person doesn’t mean that it’s wrong for others.

Ms. Tubercle and I prefer to cook at home for the most part with the occasonal trip out. About twice a year we’ll go out somewhere fairly fancy. We’re talking in the ~$80 range.

I always order something on the high end that I have never tried before and spend the next 6 months trying to recreate it at home ;D and then adding my own twist to it.

The meal is partly reverse engineering the dish.

I never said it was wrong, just makes no sense to me and that includes over priced art.

That’s half the fun for me.  I do the same thing with beer.  So I guess it’s another example of cross-training.

You also have the rule that you and your wife can’t order the same thing, because then you couldn’t share?  Turns any dinner into a tasting menu, which is more fun.  Of course if she gets something she really likes, then “sharing” usually means “here’s a small bite.”

How did you manage that price tag fixing a dinner for two? A big-■■■ chunk of veal might set you back ~$30-50, a couple of 1 lb. lobsters, ~$20-30. The rest of the shopping list might come in at $50-75 even for high end overpriced stuff from Whole Paycheck, unless the recipes called for truffles dusted with saffron and decorated with lark’s tongues and gold leaf.

I wondered that same thing. I can’t imagine how that added up to several hundred dollars..

Maybe he is amortizing the Big Green Egg.

Look up the recipe. Then all the component recipes, including the stocks and garnishes. Not every ingredient can be purchased in the quantity you need to use, and not every specialty ingredient is something in your pantry. Prime veal and fresh lobsters 800 miles from the coast aren’t cheap. For each ingredient, look at the price of the best quality choice, not whatever is on sale at Walmart. I didn’t make substitutions, and I didn’t cut any corners. Professional kitchens would obviously have many of the component items on hand and use them across multiple dishes. So I had leftovers from when I made many of the parts, as well as excess ingredients that keep. That’s OK, veal stock freezes well. I also wound up with maybe 8 portions for a dinner for 4, so we enjoyed it for a few extra days. Used up the fresh ingredients before they went off. It adds up.

Ayup. And the thing is, the more you cook at home, the less you end up having to spend when you decide to make fancy things. I can cook most of Ad Hoc at Home without making a trip to the grocery store. A big part of this, I think, is because most haute cuisine is based on variations from Escoffier, and the French school of cooking in general. Gordon, living in the US, where cooking has for too long been delegated to machines dumping glop into microwave-safe buckets, is having to pay more for his ingredients because of lack of demand. I bet creme fraiche costs $5 or more for a tiny tub, because your average American consumer will look at it and go, ugh, wtf, no thanks, give me my frozen pizzas pls - while the people that need it will pay whatever price necessary. Here, it’s $0.50 for basically the same thing. Because of demand. I’m not saying people here aren’t buying the same frozen crap as in the US, but here at least there’s been, historically, a demand for the sorts of ingredients you would typically find in nicer restaurants’ recipes.

Hell, veal stock I can buy in frozen cubes for $1.50. Not the same as rendering it yourself, but a hell of a lot quicker :wink:

Gordon, have you looked at Under Pressure? If you’re in to crazy cooking, you’d like it, although it requires random chemicals, a vacuum sealer and a water oven. But of course, if you have an electric mash kettle, you don’t need the water oven.

I’ve looked at the book, but have never tried the technique.  Didn’t want to spring for the pricey gear.  Worse, I didn’t want to have the fight with the wife over where to store the pricey gear.  I’ve reached the point with kitchen equipment that I have with beer glassware.

Ad Hoc at Home is a much more practical book for the home cook than The French Laundry Cookbook.  I’ve made way more recipes from there, and picked up several good techniques.

I use Ad Hoc at Home all the time. French Laundry Cookbook and Under Pressure are more coffee table books in practice, though you can use them without making the full recipes I guess.

Ever read the French Laundry at Home blog? I think the title of Ad Hoc at Home may have been based on the blog. An untrained home cook made everything in the book. Then she did it with the Alinea cookbook. Pretty good way to blow a few hours.

I’ve never much cared for the trendier modern style restaurants…I don’t mind spending modestly to eat out, but I reserve money for the more authentic ethnic restaurants, because I tend to prefer that than the sort of Ameri-Euro fancy fare where the chef basically takes a normal dish and then adds all kind of expensive/exotic ingredients designed more to impress the mind than the tastebud.  “Wow, Oloroso Deglazed Argentine Sheep Liver Fritters with a Truffle Gooseberry Sauce and Cacao Nib-Chile-Cashew Endive Omelet! It MUST be good!”

If I lived in LA again I’d spend my time checking out the hole in the wall immigrant places of all the varied and sundry ethnic cuisines.  Of course, I’d probably also get food poisoning every now and again, but it would be more interesting!  :smiley:

Also, since cooking is such a hobby for me, $200 buys a whole lot of ingredients.  Next time I have 200 bucks to blow on a meal, I’m going to the store and getting some ingredients for one real mother of a blowout!!!