I’ll throw my vote in for beersmith 2. I have played around with the trial version of Promash, but for the most part, I am too new to the hobby to really notice the difference. I know Derek has updated a lot of info in promash, so If I wanted to start again, I might go that route with all the recommendations it gets. The teacher at my beginning and advanced brewing classes at my LHBS (siamesemoose) said that promash is better but not actively changing/updating anymore, so he suggested beersmith and it does everything a newbie like me wants. I know some have issues with the calculations, but my brews mostly end up right where it predicts they will, so I have no complaints with the program. I do also use Bru’nWater for water and some of the free calculators at brewersfriend.com for bottling, priming, and color conversions. In the end though, I am happy with my purchsae of Beersmith
I too use Brewer’s Friend because of it being web based. I can fiddle with recipes on a tablet while having a beer on the couch and print it using wifi, sit down at the pc and even access it when I get an idea at work.
Yeah, I like it a lot but that particular aspect bothers me a bit too. Like everything else, I guess I just got used to it, and I don’t yet know what would annoy me about “the devil I don’t know”.
I guess I feel the same way in that I haven’t tried any others so I don’t know what Steve means by the workflow of brewing.
Honestly very often the idea of going on a computer as a step in making beer isn’t appealing and I take an envelope out of the recycling bin , figure out a good ratio of malts I have on hand and based on experience figure out how much I need to get a ballpark gravity, add up grain absorption, boil off etc. And start heating the volume of water it calls for while I grind the grain. A, bit of gypsum, an ounce of an appropriate bittering hops for 60 minutes, then depending on style, a lot or a little hops in a whirlpool or maybe 10 minutes and I’m good. It comes out just as good as when I futz around getting the " right" ibus, SRM, gravity, water chemistry etc. Other times I like fooling around with the program, especially if it’s a new style I’m excited to try.
I feel that once I click the brew button, I should get s page that has all the data presented. Not a page that tells me to clean my gear and mill my grains followed by a mash only page, etc. if I can enter a beer on one screen, let me brew a beer on one screen.
I’ve compared, as best I can, what is currently linked in your signature and the ‘new version’ I snagged the other day and they seem identical. So I’m thinking either A) the PPG fix is already in the version you posted on the 20th, or B) you haven’t linked to the newest, bug-fixed version yet.