Dishwashing detergent

The Cascade packs (which include the rinse agent) have resulted in no problems in the ajk household.

Some people use the term SWMBO…

“Oh, she got fired too”

Anyone?

It’s amazing what you can learn with google.

I have several.  They are named Mike, Mad, Maria and Sarah.  Sometimes, when there is no other option, it is named Paul.

Paul

I thought that was pickle slicer

That’s the way I heard it originally too, but your comment still made me think of it. :slight_smile:

That’s what google said, too.

Great story and I’ve told it over a beer several times in the last 30 years. Never gets old.

Well, honestly I just use Cascade ActionPacs Dishwasher Detergent, they come in 60 packs and pretty cheap, only 10 dollars. I’ve read an article on https://sevensevenreviews.com/what-is-the-best-dishwasher-detergent/ about good dishwasher detergents, and decided to go with this one, as it seems like the best option for me. What kind of beer are you brewing? I remember how I once managed to spill half a small keg on my floor, damn it was an embarrassment.

We use 7th Generation, I get great lacing and good head.

One thing I have noticed from using a dishwasher and a dishwasher detergent to clean glasses.  After a while I get an odor in the glass from the dishwasher detergent and drying agents in them.  It could be a combination of my crappy water and the detergent but is an objectionable odor.  The glasses would also etch after a while making them almost impossible to get clean and odor free again.  (We recently replaced our 30 year old water softener that has helped alleviate some of the problem with etching)  For that reason, I always wash all of my beer glasses by hand using something like Dawn dish washing liquid, rinse thoroughly and let them air dry.  No problems and good head retention every time.

No detergent EVER touches my beer glasses! Hand wash with HOT [135*+] water. I ripped my dishwasher out and threw it away 30 years ago, then I owned an appliance store for 9 years and always found it challenging selling dishwashers to people when I wouldn’t have one in my house  :D.

Over the years, Dave Miller has written about automatic dishwashing detergent.  The older ones he objected to because they contained phosphates and were even more alkaline than TSP, contained silicate abrasives, and were chlorinated, all of which together is a perfect recipe for etching glass.  Where glass is etched, stuff will grow that you can never get out.  He objects to the newer ones because they have been reformulated to eliminate phosphates and chlorine, and rely instead on enzymes do the bulk of the work, and these are unproven on brewing equipment; the abrasives are probably still there.  I suppose enzyme residue in the scratches could be stinky.

Hand washing with the mildest detergent possible when needed is the best bet.  I use Dawn and have great results, including great foam and lacing.  Some people think an unscented detergent is a good idea when cleaning in the brewery or taproom, but I disagree.  Fragrance is a great indicator.  If you can smell it, you’re not done rinsing.

Like the last couple of posts, we never run any glass through the dishwasher (beer glasses or not).  And for the same reasons.  Etching, odors and glass really seeming like it was actually clean.

We hand was glass, dry by hand with a cotton towel and never have any issues.

Paul

Hmmmm…I run all my glasses through the diswaher and haven’t experienced any problems.  Must be the water…

+1000

If I had to hand wash every glass I used I would switch to Solo cups.

I also throw them in the dishwasher with Cascade pods and get good foam. I have enough to do without hand washing dishes.

Edit: could it be the shape/style of the glass?  For example, I can pour the same beer in a Pils glass (tall slender/hour glass shape) and an English Pint glass (Nonick) with a very different result. Maybe that’s why the English disregard foam.

I hand rinse and then my wife throws them in the dishwasher or re-does them by hand.  Strategically leaving some lipstick or other noticeable crud on glasses assures me that my wife will step in…Hehe.  :wink:

I am suspicious of any detergent what with all the “Fragerance”, softeners and surfactants.

I soak my used bottles overnight in tap water, run them through the dishwasher using generic unscented detergent (currently “Finish”), and store them in 6-pack carriers in beer flats.

When I bottle beer I run the clean bottles through the dishwasher on the “Sterilize” cycle with no detergent. Load them in 6-pack carriers while they’re still hot, and apply plastic wrap to the open ends. Cool and bottle as usual.

I have been using this procedure for years with no issues. Hope it works for you.

Charles