Got beef with "American IPA"

[majorvices]

@blatz

Who cares what its called??  If the beer is good, I say drinketheth.

• 1. Not even going to try to change the name now. Called it Imperial Pale ale if it makes you feel any better.

[hopfenundmalz]

@a10t2

What Is India Pale Ale Beer?

Whoa… Ron Pattinson is stroking out right about now.

Along with Martyn Cornell.

[system]

What Is India Pale Ale Beer?

Personally, I don’t want any “wang” in my beer!

[jonhughey_att.net (HoosierBrew)]

@blatz

@dmtaylor

The USA is a melting pot of cultures, so we would often rather steal ideas from other places and bastardize it to make it our own rather than come up with something truly American from scratch.

umm…the Germans actually did it too.  Sedlmayr essentially stole the pilsner ‘idea’ from Plzen and then just called it German Pilsner.

IIRC, wasn’t marzen also bastardized vienna lager?

English IPAs aren’t being made to export to India anymore either, so why stop with American IPA? English Strong Pale Ale.

Who cares what its called??  If the beer is good, I say drinketheth.

+1

[sathingtonwilloby (Mark G)]

Damn… I thought this thread was going to be about pairing steak with beer. Oh well.

[klickitat_jim]

From now on, American IPA shall be called… Tim. Or the beer formerly known as AIPA.

[thirsty_t (In The Sand)]

@klickitat_jim

From now on, American IPA shall be called… Tim. Or the beer formerly known as AIPA.

ROFLMAO

[reverseapachemaster]

@blatz

@dmtaylor

The USA is a melting pot of cultures, so we would often rather steal ideas from other places and bastardize it to make it our own rather than come up with something truly American from scratch.

umm…the Germans actually did it too.  Sedlmayr essentially stole the pilsner ‘idea’ from Plzen and then just called it German Pilsner.

IIRC, wasn’t marzen also bastardized vienna lager?

English IPAs aren’t being made to export to India anymore either, so why stop with American IPA? English Strong Pale Ale.

Who cares what its called??  If the beer is good, I say drinketheth.

Same with grodzinski/gratzer. The Germans liked to take places over and rename everything with some German version of the name. Of course, the Romans did that to Greece hundreds of years before, too.

[malzig]

@majorvices

Reading Mitch Steele’s book and understanding just how much hops the original IPA had in it (6 lbs of hops per bbl, not including dry hops) and seeing how high the original gravity was (often times 1.070+) I realized how much more like our version of IPA is compared to what IPA in England has become. Sure, there are vast differences. Ours use pure cultures, are not aged for months or years, etc. But I think our IPA name is probably more accurate than what you would find in England.

I’ve had some of the historic recreations that Ron Pattinson has worked on with Pretty Things and beers were shockingly similar to the beers we think we have created.  In the 19th century, Brits were making pale colored, all base malt, hugely hopped beers with American hops.  Everything old is new again.

[beersk]

I still like APA as a new name for IPA, I don’t know that it’s too late to change it, but I don’t care enough to lobby the idea. But, that’s the beauty of it, we can call it what we want. Open up your own brewery and brew an IPA and call it APA.

[vinsthb (Vin S)]

I will love it and drink it and call it George.

[weithman5]

think i am going to work on an big american dopplebock or BAD.

[majorvices]

@beersk

I still like APA as a new name for IPA, I don’t know that it’s too late to change it, but I don’t care enough to lobby the idea. But, that’s the beauty of it, we can call it what we want. Open up your own brewery and brew an IPA and call it APA.

If I order an APA at a brewpub it better not be an IPA. And vise versa.

[a10t2]

@majorvices

If I order an APA at a brewpub it better not be an IPA. And vise versa.

+1. Fight to change the convention if you don’t agree with it, but don’t take it out on your customers. Finding a beer is confusing enough nowadays.

[jonhughey_att.net (HoosierBrew)]

@majorvices

@beersk

I still like APA as a new name for IPA, I don’t know that it’s too late to change it, but I don’t care enough to lobby the idea. But, that’s the beauty of it, we can call it what we want. Open up your own brewery and brew an IPA and call it APA.

If I order an APA at a brewpub it better not be an IPA. And vise versa.

+1.  IPA has always been the hoppiest beer in the beer world.  This is the American equivalent of such.  Works for me.

[weithman5]

@a10t2

@majorvices

If I order an APA at a brewpub it better not be an IPA. And vise versa.

+1. Fight to change the convention if you don’t agree with it, but don’t take it out on your customers. Finding a beer is confusing enough nowadays.

for that matter, at least half the time i can’t tell when i order a beer what the hell it is supposed to be, if it is not something i am already familiar with. and names are not all that helpful. waiting to order a “moose crap, double chocolate coffee rye bladder filler with turpentine”

[beersk]

@weithman5

@a10t2

@majorvices

If I order an APA at a brewpub it better not be an IPA. And vise versa.

+1. Fight to change the convention if you don’t agree with it, but don’t take it out on your customers. Finding a beer is confusing enough nowadays.

for that matter, at least half the time i can’t tell when i order a beer what the hell it is supposed to be, if it is not something i am already familiar with. and names are not all that helpful. waiting to order a “moose crap, double chocolate coffee rye bladder filler with turpentine”

Yeah, really. Thems boys bein’ too strict, settin’ too many rules.

Dale’s Pale Ale is 6.5% abv and hoppy as hell…ain’t no IPA in that name. Call it what you want. Many “APAs” I’ve had are pretty much hopped to IPA levels. Besides, there’s some overlap between pale ale and IPA in the BJCP categories, so I don’t see what the big deal is.

[hopfenundmalz]

Zombie Dutst is another IPA masquerading as an APA. Then there are ones like All Day IPA.

[system]

I love All Day IPA!

[beersk]

@hopfenundmalz

Zombie Dutst is another IPA masquerading as an APA. Then there are ones like All Day IPA.

See this is what I’m talking about. All Day IPA is a pale ale strength beer hopped up like an IPA. I don’t get all the fuss about making sure you call a beer this or that. APA or IPA, they’re pretty darned close in a lot of ways and certainly there’s a lot of overlap.