NHC entry problems : SOLUTIONS!

This goes back to the debate - what is the purpose of the NHC - quality or a chance for any member to win. In the survey’s done by the AHA it’s pretty clear that the membership favors the open chance for any member to win.

I slowed down entering competitions last year (only entered 4 or 5 including NHC), this year I am planning on entering NHC and probably 1 other.

In your situation someone who wanted to enter could just pay the $30 to register a competition and register themselves and their friends as the winners.  It’d be cheaper than entering a bunch of other competitions.

I agree it depends on that.  I wasn’t aware of those survey results.  To me there are 100’s of competitions ‘anyone’ can win and the NHC should be ‘special’ so that’s where I was coming from.

It wouldn’t be anyone who wanted to do a competition.  It would have to be specific competitions the AHA would pick out ahead of time so people could see which competitions they would want to enter etc… They would also have to be decent sized competitions say 300-400+…

I wonder how many competitions the AHA would need do this with.  If the only way to get entry into NHC was one of these competitions, I bet those would fill up very fast, especially if there weren’t that many qualifying comps.  As it stands right now, the local comps that I usually submit to (some well over 500 entries ) are filling up in a couple days to a week.

These days I usually do 3 or 4 local comps and the NHC. Some of those I are not before the entries are due. Looking at the BJCP site, no competitions are registered in MI before June.

Jeff,
I didn’t mean as a solution for this years.  It would start after the NHC so the competitions would range from after the NHC (comp) registration to the month before the first round registration for the next year so you always have roughly a month to get one in.

theDarkSide,
I wouldn’t mean to make every slot for the NHC to be open from competition only just a portion depending on how many competitions wanted to participate.  I do realize there are competitions that are overrun already… I would think some competitions would welcome it though.

At any rate seems there have been surveys and most people wouldn’t want the NHC to be merit based and would prefer to have anyone enter anything so long as they win the lottery.  So this whole thing may be moot.

I would take issue with your characterization of “merit” vs “money” based but I do agree that, at least for this year, it’s a moot point.

Well it wouldn’t be money to the AHA… It would be simply used to evaluate merit.  Unless you can think of a better way to evaluate brewing merit for a given year…

There is always this one.

A guy we know said he spent about $2k on entries and shipping the year he won.  :o

Haha True enough.  But that does require a ton of entires.  I was just proposing a way to get some slots in the NHC based on merit vs random lottery.  I didn’t mean to say you HAVE to enter 20 comps or you’re not going to get to enter the NHC.

That was just a comment on a way to show your brewing chops, not about the NHC.

The NHC has been inclusive in the past. Even a new brewer can win medals, or have a shot.

yeah that is def a very expensive way to show your brewing chops… I do realize the NHC has always been inclusive and anyone can enter.  Things change.  It used to also be where everyone who wanted to enter could enter.

From the Competition section of the AHA site:

[quote]The National Homebrew Competition, an AHA/BJCP sanctioned competition, is the world’s largest international beer competition recognizing the most outstanding homebrewed beer, mead, and cider produced by amateur brewers worldwide.
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To me that says they want the best of the best beers for the competition vs the best of the select few that randomly were chose to participate.  Adding this layer would be no different than there being a first and second round for the NHC itself.  It’s just kind of a pre-qualifier that would give those brewers that demonstrated brewing merit in other competitions a chance to try it on the ‘big stage’.

This is what I meant about money v. merit.

I think I might try for this this year.  Finished one dummy-entry away from 3rd place this year; in 2014 I’ll enter 4 of the circuit comps and be eligible.

Spreading out the pro-brewers sounds like a neat idea. This will give everyone a better opportunity to enjoy each individual brewery, as opposed to having them run altogether. It may make for a better appreciation/experience for attendees.

http://www.homebrewersassociation.org/news/2014-national-homebrew-competition-registration/

Any mention of what the fee will be per entry?  That could be a deciding factor for some deciding how many they want to enter.

Also, since they are allowing you to enter alternate judging locations, does that mean you may send some entries to one location and some to another?

I appreciate the updated information.

any harm in telling us the 12 First Round locations now?

I read that as you select where you would like your entries to go first. If that site fills before your entries are assigned, you will have your other preferences on file. The reasons would be you are comfortable with the judging centers past performance, quality of judging, and shipping costs. I don’t read that as the ability to split entries.

6 are now listed on the BJCP competition schedule list, late March and early April.
http://www.bjcp.org/apps/comp_schedule/competition_schedule.php