So you want to be a brewer

No confusion here what so ever.

I was stationed in Japan, serving in Reagan’s USMC during a shut down and had to wait for pay. Its part of serving your country in my opinion.

I’m guessing with the Corps you were still getting three squares and had a roof over your head though. ;)  And of course they did pay you back pay once it was over.

Lived off post with preggers wife. Yes reimbursed because I still had to go to work. Just saying that I’ve been there, that’s all. Not arguing, not better than. There are far worse times coming I think.

Never a good thing, for sure.  And I can’t say I disagree with your prediction, unfortunately. :P  Lucky I have a decent job, no doubt, but I do worry about younger folks I know that are less fortunate in this mess.

Guys, this is getting dangerously close to a political discussion.  If you’re going to discuss government stupidity, please do it within the context of how it effects beer, not the government itself.

I’m guessing that a thread on government stupidity would surpass the length of the “Song Title” thread!  ;D

The wait for an ok to do a beer label is what caught my attention. I’m not convinced that we really need DC bureaucrats to survive that decision. If we do, we have huge problems

I wish there was no reason to have this conversation. :o

Except maybe that I now have a stronger urge to brew a batch of homebrew.

Yes!
My problem is that I feel “no politics” is the most political thing one can say. But, I’ll bet the owner of the forum has a 503 tax exemption which limits political activities. Therefore it’s best for all of us to avoid it altogether unless it’s linked to brewing and nonpartisan. So, my apologies if I lead anyone down that path.

Jim, I have no idea about the status of the AHA other than it’s a non profit.  But that’s not the point.  The reason for the “no politics, race, or religion” rule is to help maintain a friendly, civil atmosphere based on our shared love of brewing.

That too my friend. Its an easily emotional topic. We probably would change much anyway other than the atmosphere of the forum. Agreed not worth it. Back to brewing

Only if the beer is going to cross state lines. Blame the founding fathers for that one.

Have you got your brewery permits? Opening when?

Looking at an early spring opening. Right now we’re waiting on our SBA loan approval - or rather we were. :-\

Sean, I feel for ya man.  We’re on a similar timeline as far as opening.  I was telling my wife the other day how lucky we are that we started the SBA application process when we did.  We were approved in mid-September and closed on our loan shortly afterward.  At least we were able to order our equipment with the proceeds.  But we still need to get our Brewer’s Notice application in.  It’s all ready to go, but there’s no one to process.  :cry:

Just send the application to me. I will approve it :slight_smile:

So how does that work?  I remember reading on probrewer that someone wanted to get a kind of generic keg/tap label approved for their brewpub so they could do new styles more quickly, but it was denied.  Do you only need TTB approval if you’re selling out of state?

Right, you only need to go through the federal labeling approval process (COLA) if you are selling beer out of state.  Unless beer is being sold in interstate commerce, the feds have no authority to regulate it.  Thanks to the 21st Amendment, the individual states retain exclusive control over alcohol regulation if the alcohol stays within their borders.