9/29 Webinar: The Art of Inclusive Communication

I am aware that a lot of women home brew, I learned to make mead from my wife for instance. That’s exactly why I brought it up. I know there out there but am curious why they don’t seem to find this forum appealing.

I would say its no different than why anyone skips this forum. Just not interested.

I believe Amanda was the last female that posted very often. She left when the arguments blew up over Low O2 a few years ago. Seems like Low O2 had that effect on at least three forums that I am aware of.

Annie still stops in from time to time. Always great to see her when she does. …but it’s always too long between visits.

Amanda’s main incentive to leave was having a baby. Annie is very busy.

Why are they not interested? How many of the women who you know that home brew have told you that they are “just not interested?” in a home brewing forum?
I am not trying to bust your balls Denny, I find you to be a very decent and thoughtful person so I am surprised that you are not curious why 100% of female brewers avoid this forum.

None of the males on my side, or wife’s side crochets, I do.
In fact, the only male I know that crochets owns and works on a local farm that raises alpacas
to make its own yarn.  The farm has a small store on site, and every Tuesday afternoon
they have what’s called stitch & b****, they chat, and knit or crochet.  The times
visiting the store with wife, or wife and daughter, I was highly encouraged to join
their stitch and b**** club, all women.  I had no desire to do so, and crocheted solo, or with wife.
The store was always warm and welcoming, it’s just something I didn’t want to do.  Before becoming a mommy (now 2) my daughter joined a local knit and crochet club where she lives.  The club comprised of mostly older women, some younger, no men.

Hobbies will appeal to a certain demographic more than another, so what. 
It has nothing to do with race, gender, religion, or age discrimination.

Crocheted steady for about 5 years, stopped about 3 years ago, around same time started brewing.
Made so many hats, scarves, baby blankets, booties, mittens, baby sweater, many failures.
Hats are the hardest to get right, pattern, size, and colors.  Wife and daughter to this day wear
a wool crocheted hat I made for winter.  Over the years daughter would get a compliment
on her hat and was asked if her grandmother made it.  I can imagine what was going through the
women’s head when she replied, my father did.

I’m happy that it was a positive reason (a baby) vs a negative one (a forum discussion gone off the rails).

2hy does anyone, male or female, not participate in the forum? They just don’t care to.

I tend to agree, although I don’t have real data to back it up.

My wife and I brew together.  I share Zymurgy articles with her, but she let’s me do most of the reading for this hobby.

She’s busy on the sausage making forums, and I let her take the lead in that hobby.

I’m pretty sure that if we start making cheese, we’ll be eligible to run for public office in Wisconsin.  [emoji6]

Not trying to call you out, but “bust your balls” is not very inviting to perspective female forum members.

Excellent point Tommy!

Has anyone conducted a study on the demographics of forum usage in general? Everything I’ve come across says women are less likely to participate in forum discussions no matter what the topic. Pinterest, Facebook and Instagram are used by women more than men while discussion forums are all male dominated. Brulosophy published the results of their annual homebrewer survey not long ago and male homebrewers accounted for over 97% of the respondents other studies have the percentage of males at 89%. How does this forums participation of male and females compare to those numbers? Probably pretty close I bet.

Rosey Grier tried getting men into needle point years ago.
There was a slight uptick for a bit, then faded back to where it was.

https://www.amazon.com/Rosey-Griers-Needlepoint-Men-Grier/dp/0802704212

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Wasn’t he also on the Brady Bunch defending one of the boys for being in the glee club or something? Showing my age…

I saw the webinar. I did not attend it but May be look at it from different angle.

It is geared towards commercial brewers. Most of the time brewery owners are younger then this forum users. In 2010 when I open brewery there were less then 2000 of them and I was already old at that time. There were a plenty of 30-40 years that open brewery after 2010.

Point I am trying to make is we older people respect other without defining what race, gender, height, weight, nationality background… we are. We do not need to be divided into a groups.

Younger generation on the other hand like to have everything equal and the only way to measure is to divide populations into a groups.

To my opinion dividing population into a groups is a slippery slope because there is a plenty of people who like to point the differences between these groups for their own benefit.

Now I am sure that someone can start arguing with me about older generation.

If that’s the case, why is the AHA hosting an event for commercial brewers? I would think that would fall to the BA, not AHA.

Of course the AHA is woke, silly. They are located in Boulder, Colorado.

I assumed the seminar was setup by the BA and had “extra” space so why not open it up the AHA members.  No biggie.

That’s the corporate minion side of me though.  The not so politically correct side of me immediately realized this would trigger the “panties in a bunch because they tried to make me pull my head out” crowd to pitch a fit.  The hardest place to find a snowflake is in the mirror.

It’s hard to face your own limitations.  Doing so equals growth.  Others have different ideas and beliefs and that’s what the country was established on.

I probably need more coffee this morning but this whole discussion sounds like “Headline! Old man yells at cloud!!” to me.

Paul

I assure you my objection was not based on that. And the description says it was being hosted by the AHA, not the BA.