Belgian Caged Corking Tip

The last time I corked n caged, also was the first time, I struggled with getting the right depth. More Beer suggests using a #7 stopper, but they are rubber and mash down too easy giving you a lack of consistency.  So I did this… 3/8" by 1/2" stainless collar with allen set screw. You can set it wherever you need to and it stays put. $2 at any decent hardware store.

Good idea Jim. I’ve been saving Belgian bottles for this. So far I’ve only corked wine bottles (and lots of em)so I don’t know yet if I’ll need this solution with my type of corker but I’ll keep it in mind.

What is done more and more in Belgium is to push a cork all the way down and then add a 19 mm cap, like here: http://belgiuminabox.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/cantillon-geuze-2014-75-cl.jpg

EDIT: 29 mm, not 19

Ive learned to only push it in a little. Its required when you have a huge cork. Guys with little corks can push it all the way it.

/rimshot :wink:

Wow. Just wow.

Wow

After I coughed up the water I choked on, I had a chuckle.  :wink:

Yes, there’s no way that you could fit that type of cork all the wa…hey, oh what? Oh.

Flawless.

Stop being obsessed with the size of your cork. That’s the reason why you are unable to get the right depth.  Cap it!

It’s just not as cool. The funny cork, the wire contraption that most likely does nothing, that all just really makes the whole Belgian experience.

On more than one occasion the cork has ripped itself free of the bottle after the cage was removed and then set aside for a couple minutes. Once was in the fridge.

Good to know about the caps. But, does a regular wing-capper work?

Same here.

You do have a point there. An invalid point, but still, a point.

You need a 29 mm crownhead, like this one, instead of the  (European?) standard 26 mm: https://www.brouwland.com/en/our-products/brewing/beer-bottles-crown-caps/crown-cappers/accessories/d/crownhead-inner-thread-29-mm-for-emily-fiw#.VRKwWxdPZuZ, and, of course, 29 mm caps.

This works on champagne-style bottles but not the Belgian bottles with large mouths like what Jim posted. Those bottles cannot be capped. At least I have never seen a cap or mechanism to apply a cap to those bottles. With my champagne bottles I am content to slap on a 29mm cap without a cork. It might be less classy but the 29mm caps tend to have a thick oxygen barrier and I am comfortable without adding a cork (at least for now).

The red baron wing capper, as I understand it, is the only wing capper capable of capping 29mm caps but you need to buy a separate bell for the larger cap. Many counter or floor corkers have 29mm crownheads available as well.

That’s good!

So I looks at my red baron wing-capper. The crown head isn’t removable. :frowning: However I looked at the metal plates that grip the neck and interestingly enough they are stamped 26mm and 29mm and are reversible apparently.

A decent tug with the vice grips and they slide out fairly easily.

Tried an old Leifmanns cap that’s full of dried epoxy and it fits partway into the crown head. Wish I had one to try on a bottle itself.

Any ideas about this?

I feel ashamed that you have to tell a Belgian what a Belgian bottle looks like :frowning:

Nice tip on corking Belgian bottles. It’s been a few years since I’ve bottled Belgian beers. I used the rubber stopper and found the same inconsistencies. I really love the idea of the stainless collar.

Thanks! I find it to be a cheap, clean, and durable fix. I sent morebeer a note. Maybe it will catch on and I’ll be famous lol