BJCP Entrance Exam is now available

I do not think it will be easier at all. In fact, it may be harder. 6 exam beers instead of four, more evaluation of beer and more fatigue during that period. Most new judges trying to do a complete job go at a 12-15 min clip and 15 is all the time you have per beer. There is also stress involved in knowing another beer is coming. Now if one has been judging and doing an exemplary job while judging it will be a piece of cake.

The written will be as hard as ever. Before it really was 8 questions and a virtual beer plus program information. The virtual beer and program info are gone. The T/F remain, but will count against you if you get any of the wrong. When it was 15 questions the vast majority of exams I graded were 12/15 or 13/15. I rarely got a 15/15, of course that should change. Now what that boils down to is 5 questions instead of 8. 5 questions where you have to answer 80% or better correct to make National. Of course the questions are provided in the study guide and what the mix will be:

[quote]two questions covering beer styles, one is a recipe question, and two questions covering brewing techniques, with the latter focusing on the relationship of ingredients and the brewing process to flavors in the finished beer.
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the actual TASTING will be a little harder, with the additional 30 minutes and two more beers.  But I would argue that the fatigue you speak of has largely been coming from the written test most people are taking at the same time as the 4-beer tasting.  Right now everyone is starting with a 3-hour exam.  A 1.5 hour tasting exam would be fantastic by comparison.
I took just the tasting a few weeks ago.  4 beers was extremely easy, and two more wouldn’t be that bad.  I took just the written a few months ago.  Nice to not be interrupted with beer arriving but still a huge PITA at 2.5 hours.  The stress of another beer coming?  How about writing an essay, and having to shift gears and judge the beer suddenly put down in front of you.  I found that much more stressful.

cheers–
–Michael

Agree with the distractions/time crunch/writing fatigue issues of the old format.
New format should be better for all–and, at the end of the day, what most of us want is better feedback and consistent judging of the beers in competitions.  I like that this new format stresses that.

Yes, I meant easier to do well on as separate parts not easier as far as the challenge of the questions and tasting.

As far as six beers and 15min per, that is better than a typical flight in most of the contests I’ve judged recently (8-12+).  Plus with different beer styles you won’t get quite the palate fatigue you would with ten stouts.  Do you say how many of the six are to be good examples versus having a noticeable fault?  I think that was spelled out somewhere in the old format.

As for the essay part, I agree that just not getting the hand and mental fatigue with a 90min exam.  I enjoyed focusing on the essay parts of the exam anyway.  Granted, you come up short on one question and theres going to be more severe consequences as far as score.

If I’m squarely in Certified territory with my retake I’ll probably put off taking the new one.  If one or the other is close to the next level, I know I’ll be tempted to try the new format.  And it’d be sweet not to have to take both parts again to get National.

How do you get to the practice test?  I don’t see the link.  Or do you have to pay the $10 first?

Go to the exam website https://secure.coursewebs.com/bjcp/Default.aspx and look for the “Sample Entrance Exam Questions” part

Thanks, I took it and passed!  Even though I didn’t read the directions well and couldn’t figure out how to put in more than one answer on those multiple answer questions.  How do you do that anyway?

I think you just click on more than one box. If it is multiple answer they should be check boxes instead of ‘radio’ buttons (the round ones)

A few of the students from the Better Beer Scores course have taken the exam.  The common feedback they are giving is time constraints, lots of questions on style comparisons, flavor descriptors and how they are controlled.  They also mentioned that they have the guideline and other reference materials in from of them when taking the test, which they said is OK to use, but you don’t have a lot of time to keep using it.  So far everyone one who has weighed in has passed.

The current exam schedule won’t be changed for at least a year, so that the effects of the new exam on demand and grading time can be assessed.

Right now, don’t take the exam unless you’ve got a spot for a tasting exam lined up. Otherwise, you might be wasting your time and money.

If more graders come out of the woodwork, and if grading time for the tasting exam is significantly shorter, then I’m sure that the BJCP Exam Directors would love to be able to arrange more exams.

It appears that there might be some accommodation for otherwise well-qualified judges who wish to take the written proficiency exam, but fell a bit short of getting an 80% tasting score. I don’t know how this will be handled, or how long it will last.

My wife is set to retake the exam in May and was offered the option of taking both the new written proficiency exam and the new tasting exam. She has 20+ experience points (mostly judging) and a 78% tasting score under the legacy exam.

If you’re in a similar situation and are on track to retake the exam in the next few months, it couldn’t hurt to email your Exam Administrator and ask if you can’t be “grandfathered” in.

Having looked closely at the online practice exam and the formats of the tasting and written proficiency exams, I think that the new exams will be about as hard as they were before.

The online proficiency exam appears to focus on the topics mentioned by Jonathan. There look to be a lot of questions which focus on style details, whereas previously you could gut out a 60% score on the essay exam by just describing the broad outlines of various beer styles with some errors and a lot of omissions.

On the other hand, the fact that it is multiple choice, true/false and multiple answer really helps. That sort of test challenges passive rather than active memory, so it’s easier to make good guesses even if you’re not sure of the answer.

My ignorant guess is that it’s easier than the legacy written exam, but you’ll still need to know your stuff in order to pass it.

The tasting exam is longer and perhaps more physically fatiguing than the tasting portion of the legacy exam, but it is basically the same format. Also, 6 beers rather than 4 gives a better chance for you to show your abilities, and the scoring section of the exam has been reworked to be a lot fairer; you now lose points based on how far off your scores are from the proctors’ scores for each beer, rather than overall.

Just describe the beer in front of you, address each one of the descriptive elements listed on the scoresheet (i.e., “malt, hops, esters and other aromatics” for aroma), and try to be precise in your descriptions (i.e., “intense initial chocolate malt, backed by moderate toasty, bready and caramel notes” rather than just “malty”) and you’ll be fine.

The written proficiency exam has been altered to be less of a series of sprints and more of a marathon.

There are 6 questions, one question consists of 20 true or false questions (sort of like Part 3 of Question 1 on the legacy exam, the others are mostly recycled questions from the written portion of the legacy exam, but with a few new ones.

It’s too early to say what questions will always be on the exam, but my guess is that the All-Grain Recipe question will be a perennial, as will the “compare 3 styles” question.

For the first question, you don’t gain any points; you just lose 0.5% from your score for each wrong answer. That’s harsh, but as the introduction to the test says, the questions are the sort of stuff that any National or better judge should know cold. It’s a question you can blow through in 5 minutes tops.

The fact that you have more than 15 minutes to answer each of the essay questions indicates that the graders will be looking for a lot of depth in each answer. That probably means that bullet point answers, grids and all the other time-saving tricks used to answer questions on the old exam won’t cut it. The graders will probably be looking for well-constructed essays of at least two pages.

Since the written proficiency exam is something of an unknown quantity, however, the graders will have to figure out what constitutes “National” or “Master” or “Thanks for playing” scores as they go along. It will probably be a couple of years before there is enough data to work with. It should be fun.

Summary: Possibly easier to get Recognized or Certified rank. About the same difficulty to get National or better rank, plus the extra hassle factor of having to take two different exams on two different occasions.

First (directed at an earlier post T made), I will not allow anyone to even waste my time signing up for the taste exam unless they have passed the entrance exam.

Second, the format for the written exam is spelled out:

[quote]five questions with each comprising 20% of the total score. Of the five questions, two are style-related, one is a recipe question, and two are technical questions related to ingredients or brewing process.
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Third, don’t have one, just thought it would be fun to type.

I just took the sample exam and only got 2 wrong ( one of the wrong answers was regarding if a judge could be certified without points ).

Hmmm…maybe I should start studying and see if I can get at least provisional status for next year’s 1st round.  My big concern would be the tasting exam…I really have a $hitty palate.

So, why would I take the entrance exam if I don’t know if there’s going to be an available tasting exam?  I only see two tasting exams scheduled in my state in the next 18 months.  Both only seat 12 people, and are already filled.

Are they going to expand the size of these now that it’s tasting-only, instead of essays as well?  Otherwise, it doesn’t seem like there’s an advantage to having the online exam.

So help me understand. If I wanted to just sign up out of the blue without studying etc and take the on-line exam I can do that?
Assuming I fail, I can take it again at a later date?
If I pass, what happens?
Thanks

You can sign up and take the on-line “BJCP Beer Judge Entrance Examination” out of the blue.
For an additional $10 fee you can retake it the next day (limited to once per day).

Passing this exam (it is pass/fail) you are given a non-ranked position of Provisional Judge.

The next step is to take the “tasting” exam, the “BJCP Beer Judging Examination” ($40)

For Provisional judges, the score on the BJCP Beer Judging Examination dictates their rank. Those
scoring less than 60% will be Apprentice judges; those scoring at least 60% will be Recognized judges;
and those scoring at least 70% and with five or more experience points (at least 2.5 from judging) will be
Certified judges. For those scoring less than 60%, they must still pass (by retaking) the BJCP Beer
Judging Examination within the one-year timeframe initially established when they first passed the
BJCP Beer Judge Entrance Examination.

The one year time limit seems kind of restrictive given the lack of available exam slots.  I’d suggest that at first you maybe make it two years.  Then as you get a new schedule of tests worked out you can decide if you want to narrow the window.

On the other hand, I’d encourage those wanting to take the test to let people know that you’ll take “on standby”, I got in on short notice in January and there were actually still slots open for that one.

I agree with Narvin.  I don’t see a reason to bother taking the entrance exam if the results will expire before you can get into a tasting exam.  At the very least, your results should carry until the BJCP can provide the next level of testing, even if that’s 18 months+ out.

While I’d like that opportunity, it doesn’t look like the rules permit it:

[quote]To qualify to take this examination participants be an existing National or higher ranked judge OR must
have scored at least 80% on either the BJCP Beer Judging Examination or the tasting component of the
BJCP Legacy Beer Examination and must have a minimum of 10 judging experience points. There will
be no exception to these requirements. Exams submitted to the BJCP for grading that were written by
participants not meeting these requirements at the time of the exam will not be graded and the fee will not
be refunded.
A minimum of three participants are required to schedule the BJCP Beer Judge Written Proficiency
Examination, but the Exam Director may grant a waiver in special circumstances. This examination is
scheduled separately from the BJCP Beer Judging Examination though sequential BJCP Beer Judge
Written Proficiency and BJCP Beer Judging Examinations will be allowed with a short break between
the examinations – each is treated as a separate examination
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