I am getting very little carbonation in a 9% beer that has been sitting in bottles at 70-75F for a couple of weeks. At bottling, I used 70g of table sugar per beersmith’s calculations for 3.25 gallons of beer. I dissolved the sugar in one pint of boiling water, added to the bottling bucket and stirred well. I know my capper is good and realize that it sometimes take more than 2 weeks to get adequate carb however I am getting basically none in the two that I have tried.
Any ideas why this might be happening? The beer was fermented with US05 and I did not add extra yeast at bottling. Could that be the problem? I don’t bottle very often anymore and I rarely brew higher gravity beers so I am wondering if I am missing something.
Thanks. There is that noise when cracking but it is very minimal. I have I have shaken one bottle to re-suspend the settled yeast and will try that in a week or so to see if there is any difference.
I bottle exclusively (I know, glutton for punishment) and based on experience I’m to the point where I never open one until the three week mark – it’s just a waste of 22 oz of beer to do so. Often the difference in carbonation (and sometimes flavor) between 14 days and 21 days, for whatever reason, is night and day. Doesn’t matter if I shake the bottles periodically or age in the high 70s, 4% beer or 8%, high or low CO2 volume.
I too have bottled exclusively over the past 16 years. This is a common concern with really big beers. In truth: The extra alcohol is tiring your yeast and putting them to sleep. You have about 50/50 odds of getting full carbonation in another few weeks. But you might not. Personally, if I remember to do so, I often add just a tad extra priming sugar to really big beers like this for the same reasons – many yeast strains just get tired from the high ABV.
Thanks all. When I used to bottle exclusively; 1 week would provide more carbonation than I have now and 2 weeks would be very close to fully carbed. I will give it another week and check the progress. Hopefully it will get there at some point.
Another strategy for the future on high alcohol beers you plan to bottle might be to add a small amount of a neutral yeast (or even champagne yeast I’ve heard) to eat up the priming sugar if you’re concerned that the fermentation yeast is shot. I’ve never had to do it myself as I don’t make much high alcohol beer but I know from others that it has been done with good results.
S-05 can handle way higher than 9% so you probably just need more time.
Isn’t 70 grams a little over two ounces? The last big beer I brewed (10% barleywine) I used close to 90 in 3 gallons and had great carbonation.
70 g is about 2.5 oz. I just went with what beersmith recommended for my ferment temp. I had one last night and the carb had improved so I am less worried. Assuming it continues to improve it should probably be pretty good in a couple more weeks. This is just a Xmas test batch so I am not worried about tasting before it is perfectly carbed.
+1. They worked hard for you and now you are asking them to do one last favor for you in a harsh, drunk state.
When I bottled my beers (many years ago), I always made sure to add a small amount of properly rehydrated yeast along with my priming sugar to my bottling bucket after a couple high gravity beers never carbonated. A tiny bit of insurance for all the hard work you performed to get to that point. The beers would mostly be carbonated within 1 wk after this procedure to boot.
With respect to a small amount of yeast, for a half-batch (2.75 gal), would that be say, 1/8 of a packet of dry yeast?
Also, can I assume that post-fermentation, the type of yeast would not matter? I have a Belgian Golden Strong fermenting right now. I used Wyeast 1388 and made a starter. I have a packet of Bry-97 in the fridge.
Fairy dust. A sprinkle of probably 1/16 of a dry pack would be enough for a small batch.
You’re correct. Any live yeast is probably fine. Personally I would try to stick with the original yeast or something close to it if you have any around. However, any yeast should work okay.
Thanks! My little blade scale can help dial that in. I was thinking of making a small RyePA, so if everything aligns I could use the 19/20 of the yeast in that the same weekend. (Though for all the effort involved in brewing, even tossing the rest of an open packet is worth it, if the beer comes out the way I want it to.)
I recently used EC-1118 (dry sparkling wine yeast) in the bottling bucket for a moderate gravity saison that I had cold crashed. Just waited for the priming sugar solution to drop to ~90 F, added a tiny amount of the dry yeast, stirred for a while and dumped the whole thing in with the beer in the bottling bucket. It worked out great. I had almost full carbonation (~2.8 volumes based on sugar added) in 10 days with the bottles sitting at 70-73 F.
The carbonation has definitely improved but is a bit light for my tastes however I wouldn’t call it undercarbonated. It’s good to have experience with this now so I know that I don’t really need to change my normal bottling procedure for a beer of this alcohol level. Next time, I will shoot for a higher volume of CO2. I think I was at 2.4 here. Although boozy, the beer itself is delicious.