Right on. I’ll be able to adjust my racking cane to pull clear beer.
Got my closed transfer gear yesterday. Purged kegs by pushing co2, then transferred from my Speidels with what amounts to a sanke spear made by Nor-Cal. It went great. A little extra effort, things to clean and sanitize, but I got two kegs of Crystal clear non oxidized beer, so I think it’s worth it. It was nice to not lift full Speidels out of the chest freezer too. I like it. Time will tell if the beer is better.
I am not trying to start a fight, I am genuinely interested.
Is this backed up by DO/tpo measurement or hopeful/wishful thinking?
Non-oxidized compared to what?
Industry standards or?
Perhaps the phrase could be more correctly “less oxidized”, which is better than just as oxidized as previous methods, for sure.
Seriously?
I changed my signature so this won’t happen again.
Disclaimer: 1. All beer is oxidized. 2. I only fight in person. 3. I don’t believe in science
Uhhh yea. You made the claim not me. Just seeing if there was data to back it up.
Is that no then? Which is fine, I was just curious if there was data.
It wasn’t a claim. Some people just like talking about beer. Not everyone is on a crusade. I started this thread because I was looking for a way to closed transfer from my Speidels. I thought maybe someone would be interested in the outcome. I sincerely apologize if I made it sound like I was claiming that I had discovered a way of producing totally oxygen free beer. I did not mean to get you all riled up. By the way, I never have any data. Data is against my religion.
Disclaimer: 1. All beer is oxidized. 2. I only fight in person. 3. I don’t believe in science
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I am sorry you are bent out of shape over this. I even prefaced it… You can resort to bad mouthing and whatnot. That’s cool, if that’s your deal.
Jim, at some point could you post pics of the transfer rig in place on the fermenter? Someday I probably want to get away from glass carboys, and closed transfers are a must whatever I switch to. Speidels might be an attractive option, but they’re not available locally, and I’d have to really know what I’m getting into before ordering sight unseen.
Look, all is well. Deep breaths.
You might try sometime to understand that prefacing “Not trying to start a fight” indicates that perhaps you realize that what you are about to say might be perceived as trying to start a fight. You are the oxygen guy. I get it. It’s totally my fault for not taking the time to detail what I meant, or to use proper scientific language. By now I should know better that not everyone understands a figure of speech.
My hope is that one day you will come to realize that I am not the enemy. Just a schlep trying to find more ways to enjoy his hobby. I’m not trying to disrupt your oxygen thing.
You’d have to talk Drew into posting more on the forum for glass transfer.
I contemplated pictures today but frankly my phone was in the house and i was in focus mode. Pressure plus unknown… But Ya! In a few weeks I’ll be doing it again and is be glad to.
I’ve been brewing in Speidels for a while now. I have 6 of them. I use two for sours, two as extras, and the two I routinely brew on. Honestly, I think the separate sour gear is over freaking. We bring more contaminates into our regular brewery that we realize. I would be totally relaxed to clean, iodophor, and use my sour gear in my regular beers.
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I’ll take a pic for you next time.
Thanks. The thing with glass is that I’m still lifting the carboy onto the bench to elevate it over the keg, because I’m afraid to apply more pressure than is needed to, in effect, start a siphon and replace the volume of drained beer with gas. Doing the transfer on ground level is a really attractive idea, and the Speidel looks like a bargain. Don’t want to shell out for a bunch of stainless gear! 
You and me both. For one pressurized conical I can get several 9 gallon Speidels. I keg 5 gallons, 6 gallons to the Speidel with gobs of headroom. I’ve never had real blow off but one time with a 7 gallon sour that I added a gallon of pomegranate concentrate.
Jim, you use Iodophor to sanitize? I am considering a switch from Star San because I read it doesn’t kill everything. Your thoughts?
Iodophor for kegs and kegerator. Starsan for everything else, unless it’s touched sour.
I use spray bottle starsan for stuff like tinfoil. I use starsan liquid for stuff like thoroughly cleaned starter flasks, fermentor, pump, hoses etc. Stuff I think is coated in bugs gets thoroughly hot cleaned and sanitized with no rinse dilution of iiodophor.
I’m not Jim, but I’ll chime in. I’ve gone to iodophor WHEREVER POSSIBLE, because it is in fact a broad spectrum stone cold killer, and acids aren’t. (Iodophor’s cheaper, too, just got a gallon for ~$50.) But there are times when it’s just impractical, and I still have a bucket and spray bottle of StarSan on hand always, to squirt a fitting, or dip a sample thief, etc. But more and more I’ll even make up a very small amount of Iodophor for those applications. I like the low foam/slickness too.
On that note, I’m not Jim either.
Or am i?
Jim, are you getting enough oxygen?
I have no way of knowing