I am getting ready for my first lager (voice trembles slightly with excitement) and I am thinking that an marzen/fest might be just the thing.
I have a little over half a sack of munich and some pilsner and two row on hand. a little hallertaur, some saphir, then nelson, goldings, challenger, pacific gem.
I can get more hops if need be.
The yeast is what ever the local brewery uses as I will be grabbing a quart of that (they brew a decent o-fest themselves)
I was looking at the recipe wiki and as always I am drawn to the simplest recipe up there which is the rocktoberfest from VPB which is 100% munich and then several varieties of hallertauer.
Any thoughts?
Good reasons to add some crystal or caramunich or melanoiden?
I brewed the Oktoberfest recipe from Brewing Classic Styles as my first lager and I loved it. The combo of Pils, Vienna and Munich with a touch of CaraMunich gives a great malt complexity that is perfect for this style.
I went with 5 different grains last year and it was great. Pilsner, Light and Dark Munich, Vienna and Caramunich. Hops should not play a big role IMHO so I did Tets at 60 and 30.
I personally can’t go 100% Munich because I don’t like the peppery flavor. I know some people are less sensitive to that though. I’ve been brewing an Oktoberfest/Märzen-ish beer spring and fall for a few years. The past two iterations have been my favorites. They’re both basically the same:
54% Pils
31% Munich 1
8% Munich 2
8% CaraVienne (What can I say? I like 'em malty.)
Noble hop of choice at 90 min, 25 IBU (Tinseth)
Wyeast 2206, lager pitching rate
Water is ~80 ppm Ca, ~100 ppm Cl, and pretty much nothing else.
brewed this recipe as an ale, and its was really good. doing it as a lager next month:
Recipe: Oktoberfest TYPE: All Grain
Style: Oktoberfest/Märzen
—RECIPE SPECIFICATIONS-----------------------------------------------
SRM: 7.9 SRM SRM RANGE: 7.0-14.0 SRM
IBU: 23.6 IBUs Tinseth IBU RANGE: 20.0-28.0 IBUs
OG: 1.055 SG OG RANGE: 1.050-1.057 SG
FG: 1.012 SG FG RANGE: 1.012-1.016 SG
BU:GU: 0.431 Calories: 181.3 kcal/12oz Est ABV: 5.6 %
EE%: 76.00 % Batch: 5.80 gal Boil: 8.43 gal BT: 90 Mins
wyeast 2206 starter 500Bil
Total Grain Weight: 11 lbs 12.0 oz Total Hops: 2.00 oz oz.
—MASH/STEEP PROCESS------MASH PH:5.30 ------
-ADD WATER CHEMICALS BEFORE GRAINS!!<<<<<<<
Amt Name Type # %/IBU
7 lbs Vienna Malt (3.5 SRM) Grain 1 59.6 %
3 lbs 12.0 oz Dark Munich - 12L (12.0 SRM) Grain 2 31.9 %
1 lbs Pilsner (2 Row) Ger (2.0 SRM) Grain 3 8.5 %
Name Description Step Temperat Step Time
Maltose Rest Add 14.99 qt of water at 155.4 F 145.0 F 30 min
Intermediate Rest Add 2.25 qt of water at 205.2 F 152.0 F 20 min
Dextrinization Re Add 2.50 qt of water at 204.5 F 158.0 F 40 min
Mash Out Add 5.50 qt of water at 207.8 F 168.0 F 5 min
—SPARGE PROCESS—
-RECYCLE FIRST RUNNINGS & VERIFY GRAIN/MLT TEMPS: 72.0 F/72.0 F
-ADD BOIL CHEMICALS BEFORE FWH
Batch sparge with 2 steps (Drain mash tun, , 4.34gal) of 168.0 F water
—BOIL PROCESS-----------------------------
Est Pre_Boil Gravity: 1.041 SG Est OG: 1.055 SG
Amt Name Type # %/IBU
1.00 oz Tettnang [4.50 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 13.3 IBUs
1.00 oz Tettnang [4.50 %] - Boil 30.0 min Hop 10.3 IBUs
I am going to brew my first lager this spring but it’s going to be a doppelbock based very closely on Kai’s doppelbock recipe. I need to sit down with Brewing Lager Beer first.
I forgot to add Tom that Briess Amber is “a proprietary blend of base, Munich, and 60L crystal malts. Amber color and malty flavor with caramelly overtones” according to NB. I think it was a good fit for an off the cuff quickie batch and was very much in line with the many American Octoberfests that I’ve sampled.