This may not be 100% accurate, I’d be wary of taking legal advice from people on the internet
It is fine to refuse, but if they insist they have cause it is best to get out of the way and cooperate. If they are lying then I don’t think they’re going to be able to use anything they find, but if they are telling the truth there could be an obstruction charge.
Then again I’m not a lawyer, and someone once said “I’d be wary of taking legal advice from people on the internet”.
apropos of nothing, but I used to live in rural Vermont and those winters can get a little long and dark. Seasonal Affective Disorder will and does set in. So one winter I got myself a 600 watt metal halide balasted grow light. and had a winter garden in the living room. 3 times that winter the cops showed up at the door to ‘check on the neighbors’ (this is actually possible as the neighbors were a little sketchy). Actually, to there credit they never asked to come in… because the garden was right there in the front room where the could see it. Lettuce, baby carrots and radishes all winter long. cherry tomatoes never really worked out but we started our summer garden as well so it wasn’t to much trouble
Well I have noticed we share similar views on certain things. But quite oppose views on others…that’s life. Funny, before I saw Tom’s comment about that, I was thinking I agreed mostly with what you were saying, except for the “getting even” part. I’d be curious as to who complained because it’s like, “hey, mind your own f*cking business”, but wouldn’t really care enough to want to get back at them or anything.
I was a little younger when I/we got even, but it was mostly harmless anyway. Rolling their house, calling in bogus pizzas orders, etc. Childless things that made us feel better. Today, I would just confront them. Knowing that they are spineless anyway by calling the police, a nice polite meeting will usually suffice. When people hear what you were really doing and why it made you uncomfortable having the police called, they usually squirm a little and never do it again in fear of another face to face. Spineless people love to go behind your back and squeal on you, but they hate being confronted in anyway.
And you’re right, we definitely don’t agree on everything.
If it is the kind of person who will report you rather than come see what’s up, I think there’s at least a 50/50 chance that confronting them will only make it worse. In your eyes they did something wrong, but at the time they felt their concern was reasonable. They may or may not feel foolish about it now, but they may also feel like they need to keep an eye on you.
I got the cops called on me a few years back by a neighbor lady who lived in the upstairs apartment that overlooked the backyard of the rental house I was in. She was an old pinched faced Chinese lady who looked like she was constantly three days short of kindness.
So, one day, I’m in my backyard, minding my own business. Wasn’t brewing anything hoppy and in fact had just gotten to the boil when I see a shadow on the other side of the fence and a voice ask me what I was cooking. I replied “beer…” before seeing through the fence slats that whole Sam Browne belt and a flash of silver. “… Officer. Would you like to see?” Brought him into the back yard where he said that they had reports of a strange smell in the neighborhood. He walked around and I pointed things out to him, showed him my book. He pointed at the copper immersion coil and asked me if I was distilling. (They always ask/think that - witness the Cops episode where they busted a homebrewer)
He finally left and went back out to his cruiser and pulled up along side a sergeant’s cruiser where they chatted and laughed for 10 minutes.
Thus was born the “PoPo Apple Smoked Pale Mild”.
The great part - pissed off neighbor lady, who kept giving me the stink eye was evicted 6 months later for not paying her rent on an apartment she’d lived in for nearly 20 years. I just continued to smile every time I saw her.
Maybe she didn’t like the fact that I light prayer incense before every brew… maybe she just didn’t like me… maybe she really was convinced that I was making meth in her direct line of sight just behind a fence a hundred yards south of world famous Colorado Blvd. Regardless it proved to be a funny interaction, but innocent old me still prefers to keep my interactions with law enforcement to the minimum. Never know what can get you into trouble!
huh…craziness. Its a wonder I haven’t been cuffed lol. With a freezer packed full of vac sealed green leafy stuff and a box full of white powdery stuff(water salts) things can look a little suspect.
but common mind your own business…and to call about pot no less? that debate is for another place though!
My uncle was a cop for 30+ years (including being Chief of Police in Vallejo, CA) and over the years I have has several good friends in law enforcement. The problem is while we know we are doing something innocent and legal, the officer at your door doesn’t necessarily know that. They are taught to be suspicious (usually for their own safety), add to that they are lied to almost all the time (oh, I didn’t know I was speeding, that is my friend’s weed, I only had two beers!). So in the end he isn’t just going to take someone’s word.
Yep, there are cops out there that will give anyone a hard time just because they can, but in my experience the last thing most cops want to being doing is bugging someone. Maybe I’ve been luck but anytime I have been harassed by a cop it was usually because I was doing something stupid. ;D I will happily give up some of my time if it helps a cop do his job, which should be ensuring that we are all safe. Yes, we have the right stop them at the door… but if showing them around ensures they don’t have to come back, well fine by me. Of course, if the cop demands to come in vs asking professionally (which is not always nice but professional works for me) I might tell him to stuff it (politely). But if the guy is just trying to do his job, well…