Great draft list

New pub and burger place opened up, great draft list and also have Great Lakes new chillwave double IPA which is phenomenal.

Edit: and the latitude 42 lucifers cuvée - double chocolate oatmeal stout from Michigan is awesome.

It lists Arrogant Bastard as a “full bodied lager”!?

Yeah, hopefully it’s just a mixup and the guy doesn’t actually think that. I used to see that at a lot of pubs back when craft beer got big, not as much these days.

funny i missed that about bastard. what i find funny and seemingly a trend, PBR is back.

It’s been back for a while. Became the cheap beer of choice for hipsters a long while ago.

+1.  Yeah, seems to be either craft beer drinkers or PBR drinking hipsters around here. Not too much middle ground.

That I get and have seen. I’m more intrigued by it making its way onto a more sophisticated list of beer.

It’s at a couple of nice restaurants around here. The descriptions are kind of funny. One lists it as “it’s PBR. It’s two dollars.” The other says “American Lager. Apparently won a blue ribbon.” I tend to think that if you make fun of the beer, maybe it shouldn’t be on the menu, but that’s just me I guess.

I found Corona Light more surprising.

Edit: I do love the line “One of only 25 local bars to carry it on tap.”

I dated a girl whose family started PBR. The family money is ridiculous. Their “shitty beer” has contributed to one filthy rich family…

Seven bucks a pint makes me really appreciate homebrewing. That makes one of my kegs worth $280. Not bad for half a day’s work!!! Suck it, AB!

+1.  I’m with you.

yeah in a posh area so prices aren’t what I’d consider great or where I will frequent often to drink. besides the porter, that great lakes DIPA was really good, and glad I got to try that.

Yeah, that is a great beer. I just meant in general that prices on some of the draft stuff is getting pretty inflated. A IIPA with a boat load of hops or a truly big beer is one thing, but I’m seeing 6.5-7% stuff that is very good but not nearly worth the pint price.

i here ya Jon.

side note, chillwave paired quite nicely with my burger- smoked brisket over the top of the burger with smoked Gouda cheese…i got chills thinking about how good it was  ;D

Sounds like a killer burger.

i did a get a free round of beer for advising them that their keg of crooked river black forest lager was bad. its is supposed to be a helles, and it was sour…bar staff had no idea and been serving it. i cant believe people drank it and didn’t think something was wrong.

A few weeks ago I calculated the retail price on the sour beer aging in my house at fairly low bottle prices and figured I have like $4000 worth of sour homebrew. That’s a good return on brews that were fairly simple and cheap to make.

I bet the savings on making homemade mead is sky high. I make enough to get honey at bulk prices and use mostly home grown or foraged fruit. When you factor in how little actual labor time and the cheapness of the equipment along with the price of commercial mead its a big difference. Also I have not tasted a commercial mead that approaches the quality of homemade. IMO mead doesn’t hit its stride for at least a year, even with good practices in terms of nutrient schedule and temp control. Commercial meaderies are selling stuff that’s  just months old that they sulfite and back sweeten to hide the alcohol. Plus they really skimp on fruit in melomels.

Have you tried Moonlight Meadery or B Nektar? I have yet to try something subpar from either meadery.