That’s interesting. I will have to try it again, making sure I only give it 48 hours. Timing things right is tough with a newborn. That no-sleep brain…
Also, I sort of made your recipe, but subbed for every ingredient :P. Actually, I just saw what ingredients I had around and wanted to make an amber ale, so I used your recipe as a jumping off point. The only identical ingredients in both were CaraRed and Melanoidin and my SG was 1.052.
Just saw this and thought I’d post it. It’s about an hour long but I thought it may interest some.
I just tried to add this to my watch list, but I can’t because this is listed as “Made for kids” ;D I’ll have to check this out later (if I remember)
Finally getting to slow enough point for work where I feel like I can put a podcast or something on in the background. I think I’ve got about 40 hours in the backlog from all the awesome seminars people put out, I guess this makes 41.
On the cold hopping thing, I’ve been trying it on the last few beers. One turned out awesome, the other was OK. One has the “fresh” blue lake hops and was an incredible lager. The other had local hops (Centennial, Cascade, & YCH El Dorado). I’m thinking it was the local hops, but I also used Omega Tropical IPA yeast and I’m wondering if the yeast had an effect.
I just kegged the first beer where I increased my hop qty significantly. As I said above I think I simply wasn’t using enough hops to get the flavor I am looking for. Tasting the hydro sample I am getting a more improved flavor than I recall from previous batches.
I used a standard APA with 6 oz Cascade in the boil (2 oz ea at 15,10,5 min.). I would normally use far less and earlier in the boil. I am thinking the more hops later in the boil ‘hop burst’ technique will help me in the flavor profile without blasting the bitterness off the charts.
I also added 2 oz in the fermenter for the last 3 days of fermentation vs my usual dry hopping in the keg. My thought is that adding them during active fermentation — but after the most vigorous activity — wouldn’t potentially ’CO2 scrub’ as much flavor away and any O2 I introduced by opening the lid to add the hops would be consumed by the still active yeast. I used a hop bag but didn’t tether it to the fermenter. This was a mistake because it got sucked into the drain and made closed transfer a PITA of a long process. I’ll tie it off to the handle with dental floss or fishing line next time.
Fingers crossed this early indication of flavor improvement survives into the pint glass.
Great thread. I’m going to try this with a IPA that I plan to brew later this month and dry hop. One question (and maybe this was answered and missed it): I ferment in converted keg that I can crash to 35 once the fermentation is complete, but I cannot dump the yeast from the fermenter. Any negative effects from dry hopping on top of the nearly dormant yeast? Would it negate any of the benefits of the 48 dry hop at 35 degrees? My other option would be to crash and dry hop in the keg for 48 hours.
I haven’t done it that way, so I can’t speak from experience, but I would guess that would be Ok.
So, I want to dry hop my latest beer, using the cold and short method as described in this thread, but I’m wondering how much is really necessary to achieve the best results. I see that maximum is suggested to be about an ounce per gallon, but what about less than that?
I have what is called either a “Cold IPA” or a “New World Pilsner” - 80% Best Pils, 20% corn grits (cereal decoction) with Mosaic and Citra hops at about 60IBUs at 1.070, fermented with Diamond Lager. It is currently cold crashing.
Since I have two fermenters, each with 5 gallons, I want to dry hop cold with Citra in one and Mosaic in the other.
Do y’all think 2 or 3 ounces each would be enough to get some good hop flavor?
Yeah, that should be fine
Yes, that is certainly plenty depending on what you’re shooting for. 1-2 oz/gallon gets you that saturated, NEIPA “juicy” type dry hop character, but you can still get plenty of dry hop character at lower usage rates.
Thanks for all of your commentary everybody this is a great thread I’ve enjoyed reading through the posts.
For those wanting to get into this a bit deeper, Drew and I will be co hosting this on Thursday…
Will that be posted on youtube or somewhere else later? I’ve got a conflict at that time.
Yeah, I think it will. Check the hopandbrewschool website for info.