Just as a data point, I once had a beer get ropey in a couple weeks. No opinion on whether or not that’s what this is, though.
I’m not saying it definitely is pedio, just that it sounds like it. You make a good point about the short timeline, I forgot that it was only a week old, but under the right circumstances it can grow pretty quickly as Denny pointed out. Maybe he’s stumbled upon IPM (Ideal Pediococcus Media) ;D
It could definitely be something else, we’re diagnosing over the internet. ![]()
I am ![]()
I’ve had beers served to me when I was judging that I just couldn’t bring myself to put in my mouth. I’ve tasted some really foul ones and done my best to diagnose them, but one or two have just smelled too awful to pass my lips.
Yeah, for sure, but I always manage a sip. I think somebody was trying to kill me once, but I survived. It was a habanero mead as I recall.
I’ve had beers served to me when I was judging that I just couldn’t bring myself to put in my mouth. I’ve tasted some really foul ones and done my best to diagnose them, but one or two have just smelled too awful to pass my lips.
Sorry to be off topic, but in regards to this, I was judging at a comp when a guy at the next table shrieked and said no way to a beer that he clearly noted as smelling of fecal matter. Ironically, it was an American Brown…
Just for the record, here’s the recipe for the Red Ale I made… a hoppy Red Ale by the way as you’ll see:
10 lbs Rahr 2-Row
1 lb 40L Crystal
1 lb Carared
.5 oz Simcoe 90-min
.25 oz Simcoe 60-min
.25 oz Columbus 60-min
.25 oz Simcoe 30-min
.25 oz Columbus 30-min
.5 oz Simcoe 15-min
.5 oz Columbus 15-min
1 oz Cascade 10-min
.5 Simcoe 1-min
.5 Columbus 1-min - I like hops… followed the Green Flash West Coast IPA hop schedule
Yeast was WLP-001.
OG - 1.052
Current Gravity - 1.010
The beer doesn’t smell really bad… it does smell a bit like (what some have described) as band-aids. The fermentation didn’t fully take the first week… the gravity for six days of fermentation was 1.040. So I shook the fermenter the next four days to rouse the yeast. I didn’t check the gravity until that fifth day upon seeing globs of gook in the airlock. When I took the gravity reading, I noticed the liquid wasn’t dripping off the hydrometer in drops, but was coming off in long strands… like very watery honey or (disgusting) like a big goober one lets dangle from one’s mouth to the floor… although not that strong.
I kept the 4 oz sample of the beer in a pyrex container after reading the gravity… and the yeast has settled at the bottom like normal. I just don’t understand all the chunks in the airlock or why the liquid doesn’t drip off the hydrometer in drops. The beer looks normal when the yeast has settled. I don’t have a working camera, so I can’t pass along any pictures. Sorry.
Thanks again for all the good discussion on this you guys are offering.
“I noticed the liquid wasn’t dripping off the hydrometer in drops, but was coming off in long strands… like very watery honey or (disgusting) like a big goober one lets dangle from one’s mouth to the floor… although not that strong.”
OK this is almost exactly how Vinnie was describing ropiness in his sour barrel aged beers. How odd. As I recall he said that you could take strings of the “liquid” and stretch it between your fingers like snot. Not very pleasant sounding.
If you let it settle, does the clear beer exhibit the same characteristics? Does it smell OK? With that much simcoe it’s gonna smell pretty “catty” I would think. Hmmm.
“Sorry to be off topic, but in regards to this, I was judging at a comp when a guy at the next table shrieked and said no way to a beer that he clearly noted as smelling of fecal matter. Ironically, it was an American Brown…”
I was there and tried that one, it was a bit nutty! ;D
Where’s Gordon when you need him… he may know.
My friend Rob (who is the purveyor of Homebrewkorea.com) stopped by my apartment today to drop off some 1-liter swingtop bottles. I showed him my “snotty” beer. He said he’d never seen anything like it. He also marveled at how the beer was honey-like in consistency, but now down to 1.006 gravity. The liquid seems much more dense relative to water. He had the cajones to taste the beer. He said it wasn’t particularly good. I figured I’d show him the fermenter… take a look at the beer. I pulled of the lid and it smelled sour. It is now part of the Seoul sewage system. It’s strange this craft we’ve chosen to undertake.
Sounds like you did the right thing and got a physical opinion and a taste test.
Now you can chalk it up to experience and move on with your brewing. A learning opportunity if you will…
Yes it is a strange obsession but it is ours. ;D
Dang. Now we’ll never know.