People drive like Sh*t…I said it before I will say it again, It is my government’s job to keep me
FREE Not Safe. We are not safe, no matter what…hell it is dangerous
just breathing…
proof’
US Constitution - Amendment 4 - Ratified 12/15/1791.
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
I agree with you to an extent, but if my tax dollars are paying for a police force I dont want them out there trying to keep me free. I want them out there trying to keep me, my kids and my loved ones safe, just not only writing tickets to make money for the city.
That video is unbelievable and Ill bet you a lot of those drivers were drunk. I want those idiots off the road, or charged so severely that they stop doing it and start paying attention to the road.
I get so angry. Not sure what drivers are like where you live but here in Philly we have a high asshole count and a lot of them drive.
Ooooh, filter FAIL.
What part of being on the road on Saturday night when the bars close and refusing a breath test is not probable cause for a warrant?
All of it.
Tubercle spent 10 years in law enforcement busting DUI’s. Ms. Tubercle did also (that’s where she was met). Got 2 daughters and 2 sons -in-law in law enforcent now that bust them every day. Pulled up on many scenes where death and destruction was caused and many lives changed because of drunk drivers.
Got sick of law enforcement due to the degradation of the constitution due to case law by activist judges. DUI check points are governed by the Carrol Doctrine due to the mobility of the alleged offender.
There is very little of the 4th amendment left.
BTW, a breath test doesn’t require the level of probable cause, just reasonable suspicion.
You are kidding, right? You’re saying that just by driving a car at a particular time of day makes you suspicious and gives the authorities the power to detain you against your will and take blood from you against your will?
That kinda sucks for people who a driving to or from work don’t you think? Perhaps they should be required to carry a note from their employer, “Please excuse (your name here) from having his civil rights violated. He is on his way home from work.”
I have to ask again. Why refuse a breath test?
This checking is also being done in my area and I posted it in the wrong thread a few days ago.
Here it is better served in this thread.
I believe this poorly worded dribble says that you will loose your Drivers license just for refusing a Breathalyzer…
even if you have NOT touched a drop…the offense has become the act of “refusal”.
I have trouble discerning where the law ends and politics begins, so if this post is over the edge, I will gladly delete it.
Seems on topic because of the mention of laws in the opening paragraph of your post re:federalist papers
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The part where I have NOT touched a drop, all my tail lights are working, I am NOT weaving, I did NOTHING wrong, but get stopped anyhow and I should NOT have to prove my innocence because I am …that is the part
Maybe I was the SOBER designated driver…and Now I am GUILTY until proven innocent
Edit:(tried by a machine instead of my peers)…that is just Backwards.
How do you guys feel about employers making you take random piss tests?
Im thinking about implementing random drug testing for my company. I dont want anyone working for me that tests negative.
They could test my ability by washing it off their wet trowsers…no problem
Edit: In the military that was the most degrading thing I ever had to do…I won’t do that any more…sorry
now I know better, I will p*ss all over you while you make sure I am not cheating
Edit#2; If more ppl would do this :
, there might be less desire to have people go thru this madness. Why do you think you have ANY right to my urine?
Ive heard a lot of construction company owners tell me that their insurance company makes them drug test their employees. If they refuse to comply their premium will quadruple. This is of coarse hear say.
Off topic but kinda related.
Yeah, off topic, but I believe Insurance companies need to be slapped and reeled in quite a bit.
Seems like they have been given the license to Milk us all badly…they should have to cover
you…PERIOD…car insurance,…paid for…You should be covered 100%…NO EXCLUSIONS
Medical insurance, paid for, you should be covered 100% NO EXCLUSIONS.
Home Insurance, paid for, you should be covered 100% NO EXCLUSIONS…
Edit: else get out of the insurance business…
well you get my meaning
Edit#2: AND they should get out of the business of trying to regulate/and manipulate things…like…Air Bags, and Power Brakes, and Crash testing Automobiles… and Medical procedures…and just get back to the business of insuring against loss… Your Paid for loss not theirs. This to me seems the reasonable risk they assume for your payment. PERIOD
Even if I was completely sober, I’d refuse one.
Why? I dont understand.
Because I live in a FREE country and I AM innocent until proven guilty by a jury of my peers; not by a F__King machine.
CLASSIC! 
How could we enforce the law then?
If there is no evidence there would be no convictions.
In a free country should we be allowed to drink and drive?
I think if you are charged with drinking and driving you still have the right to a trial. I cant say I know to much about it. I have never even been suspected.
All I know is that a drunk driver slammed into a car where one of my best friends was a passenger. He was killed instantly when his head popped off.
I also lost my new truck in 2006 when a drunk driver ran a red light and broad sided me. He was also “under insured” I didnt have health insurance at the time and I only got done paying off the settled medical bills last year. I think I got about $10,000 dollars. I had $25,000 in medical bills. Totaled a $10,000 F250 only weeks after I got it.
What is the solution? Is there a solution?
No easy solution is there. ???
Blow in your ignition to start your car…yeah I heard that from an insurance company
that wants to milk you in yet another venue. If that is what we need to do, then let the people that are mandating
that PAY for the priveledge of having it, instead of jacking up the already exorbitant cost of a vehicle.
So if you don.t blow a sober breath, your car won’t start…lol…what a joke, you could have or hire someone
else to blow a sober ignition for you.
Computer eyeball response recognition software to start your car…your eyeballs must respond in a sober fashion along
with retina recognition. Again let the ppl that feel they have to have this, Pay for it! and mandate it for every driver
behind the wheel. Don’t add it to the cost of a vehicle’s price tag.
Then in a free society, the people that build the mad max machines that run on ethanol, will be the loose cannons that
will not comply…NO there is no easy answer