Revisiting Bitters

If that was meant to be acres (in fact it’s about 2500 acres) - that’s not the driver, if anything it’s the other way round. People are just a lot less interested in British-style flavours, they want something more tropical/fruity.

If there was a shortage of British shops, the local branch of Barth Haas would not have the likes of Endeavour for £10/kg and Fuggles & Bramling Cross for £15/kg, when they’re selling 2018 Citra for £26/kg and Galaxy for over £30/kg.

Of course. I’ve not had them, but as I say, almost anything goes. I’m struggling to think of German nobles being used in a major way in bitters though, to be fair, whereas there’s a fair bit of Styrians and East European in the big commercial beers.

Okay, this is what I have planned for next weekend.
5.5 gallon batch
8 lbs Maris Otter
4 oz Crystal 60
2 oz Pale Chocolate
.75 oz Belma @60
.5 oz Belma @20
WY 1318

Denny, I know you’re a fan of Mt. Hood. And I am too. I think they would probably work out nicely.

As far as a grain bill goes, I really like Maris Otter or Golden Promise, and about 5-7% Special Roast. All the darker bitters just don’t interest me. Boddingtons is king. I absolutely love that beer.

Oh, I agree, but American nobles provide some unique qualities, too.  And  by American nobles, I don’t mean things like Mt. Hood.

Unfortunately, I have no idea where to get American nobles. They sound like they would go well in a Pilsner style as well.

Yes it was to say acres. Have they expanded a little in the last couple of years?

Looked at Galaxy here in the US. $28/ lb. Spendy!

EKG $15/lb import.

Citra $23/lb trendy

Centennial $12/lb not trendy

CTZ $8/lb old school

That’s generally where I use them.

If not Mt. Hood, then what specifically? Like US Golding, US Sterling, US Tradition…?

https://fhsteinbart.com/product-category/ingredients/hops/american-noble-hops/

https://www.homebrewersassociation.org/forum/index.php?topic=32190.0

Hmm, interesting. I have not heard of this till now. Doubt I’ll be using them. But good to know what you all are referring to when you say American Noble Hops.

Thanks for the link. Those prices don’t seem bad at all.

It’s not a type of hops, more a product.  Here’s a link: Product sheets

A little bit but not that much, I wouldn’t have said it ever got down to 1800, but frankly these days I can’t remember where I left my phone half the time, so don’t quote me!  ::slight_smile:

That number shocked me a few years ago, so it stuck in my mind.

Look at the IHGC report in the link. UK is at 917 hectares, or 2266 acres in 2020, down from 958 hactares in 2019.