I agree. It’s no different than adding green food coloring to your beer on St Patty’s Day.
Oooh Eric, as an Irishman there’s one thing that grates deeply and that’s people calling St. Patrick’s Day “St. Patty’s Day”. That needs to stop! 
I agree that this is a great flavor combo. I’m a big fan of it myself. But the end result, while similar in color, is a different animal than what is typically referred to as a Black IPA. It’s more like a Dubbel IPA (not to be confused with a Double IPA)
While we’re on the subject - try your Candi Syrup IPA with a yeast like 1762 or 3864 and a dash of Special B some time. The flavors meld together surprisingly well.
If Black IPA is roasty then isn’t it just an American Stout?
I also don’t think there’s anything wrong with using sinamar, in principle (though I’ve never used it). It’s made from malted barley so it’s no different than malt extract as far as where it comes from.
No. An American stout is clearly a stout. A black IPA is still dry like any pale beer with hints of roastedness. We’re talking 2-4 oz of chocolate, not 2 lbs. Has anybody drank a commercial black IPA? Uinta Dubhe… Founders Dark Penance… Firestone Walker Wookey Jack… These are a few good ones. They have light roastedness and clearly aren’t stouts.
Ok. Before this thread gets out of hand and into another nomenclature battle (even though there is a clear line between black IPA/American porter/american stout :P) lets get back to the OP.
I think your beer will be very good as is. I personally would sub out the carahell, oats, and cararoma for some C40 or C60 and add 2-4 oz of chocolate. Don’t be afraid to go crazy with the hops in this style (I used 18.5 in my last BIPA… Overkill maybe lol). Other good hops IMO for this style are chinook, Simcoe and Galaxy in addition to what you have. Definetely dry hop. Mash between 150-152. If you’re into water, boost your sulfates to around 250 ppm and there will be no mistaking this beer for another style. I’ve used 001 and 007 yeast in mine before. Both made great beers, so 1098 will work well.
Black IPAs are great transition beers for spring and fall. Good timing on this one!
2-4 oz. of chocolate and some oats are good. 13-14 oz. of carafa seems like too much unless it is cold steeped. The roast character in a Black IPA should be light.
I guess that’s where we differ in opinion. I use 14 oz of dehusked carafa special III in mine. It adds very minimal roast. Because of the almost non-existent roast character from this alone, I’ve started adding the touch of chocolate.
+1. Aside from roastiness, a definite difference in attenuation/body. Those are great beers - Wookey Jack is insanely good.
Great Lakes Bridge War Black IPA…very tasty…but alas, you must come to Cleveland and visit GL pub to enjoy.
Should I replace 2oz of the Carafa Sp.III with 2oz of chocolate?
That’s pretty much what I do. 2-3 oz Chocolate.
Yup
I’ve not had that. I was last there in November. I need to make another trip soon. And hit up the Westside Market.
IMO, there IS no point in making it black. If you get roastiness, it conflicts with the hops. If you don’t, what’s the point of just making it black?
its really good. they perfected the smooth roast and hops balance…55 IBU. i know people will say roast and hops = bad, but they nailed it.
Thanks Dan, I am going to give that a try. Although I have the D-90…perhaps not as good as the D-180?
I’m with Denny on this one. I have had a few examples that I greatly enjoyed, but I just can’t get behind this style overall. Absolutely nothing against those that are into this style.
I understand both of these reasonings. If you’re not a fan of the roast and the hops combo, you choose not to make it black at all. I just don’t get not liking the combo of roast and hops and just make it black to make it black.
It’s one of my favorite styles and one of the best beers that I brew.
Same here.
EDIT - As a schwarzbier fan, I still have to ask - what is schwarzbier if not primarily a dyed black helles with a touch of roast ? Black IPA is a dyed black IPA with a touch of roast. Other than the obvious misnomer, I think black IPA gets a bad rap. To each his own.