"We Might Have Been Wrong About FWH"

Honestly, I can’t say that I notice a huge bittering difference either. But a) lab results consistently show about a 10% increase in IBU and b) it’s easier for me to FWH so I don’t have to watch when the boil starts and remember to throw the hops in.

Without knowing who their tasters were, I wouldn’t necessarily think their palates are less refined. Generally speaking, being a BJCP judge means that you have a more consistent vocabulary to recognize, identify, and describe things, not necessarily that you can detect things that others can’t.

And I don’t disagree FWIW. If I didn’t  make a brew day checklist, I’d forget to add hops half the time, whether it was a FWH or 60 addition. As said, I FWH beers on occasion but generally bitter @ 60.

How long would a FWH last in the commercial setting?  Probably well over an hour and alot longer than any homebrewer would.

I brewed a CAP with Jeff Renner several years ago. His FWH procedure is to have them in the wort for about an hour - when his sparge is over he has lunch - holding temp during that time.

I haven’t really noticed a difference with the bittering character when using FWH (for the beers I have brewed that way at least). But I do remember a long time ago I brewed one of my only Witbiers, I bittered with Hallertau as a FWH addition and the although it was a mild character,  the hop flavor and aroma in the finished beer would have been enough to make you think it was actually hit with a touch of late hops. It was enough to convince me of some of what is believed to be true for FWH.

I don’t know if it makes a difference or not but I do know that when I do it, I am a lot less likely to get a boil over than when I toss a big bittering charge in when the wort is already boiling.  :slight_smile:

Tony