Yeah, I’m blown away by the 4 day story. I can’t see any scenario that you get a great beer from that. I’ll have a hefeweizen in the glass @ 2 weeks and that always feels fast.
I get hangovers from my beer if I drink enough to get a hangover. I got one after the annual Christmas party last Saturday.
:D I don’t get (fusel) headaches from my beers, but drink enough of anything and the next day sucks.
i used to think that until i met good whiskey, good vodka, and good tequila! impurities in anything = ouch
I haven’t notice any bad hangovers from drinking commercial swill. But, I only drink PBR, Coors, and Rainier. I have heard Budweiser is worse.
What will get me a terrible hangover is if I drink both beer and red wine. Like a couple of beers early in the day, then go out to dinner and drink wine. Doesn’t matter if I hardly get buzzed, the next morning it feels like a steam roller ran over me. I try to drink wine and only wine on the days I drink wine.
I agree on the impurities. Cheap crap is worse. Some of my worst hangovers were on good Scotch and bourbon, though. Too much of a good thing !
I heard an interview with Michael Jackson once where he theorized that beers with more flavors tended to give him worse headaches because of all the “micro-components”. If I sticking to “just beer” (meaning "session beers under 6%) I don’t get head aches the next day. Higher gravity Belgians can cause a pretty bad hang-over though. So maybe there is some truth to what he says.
i tell my wife the same thing- too much of good ol’ wife logic gives me a headache… ;D
Red Stripe is the only beer that gives me a headache within minutes of having one. I’ve always assumed I must be either allergic to the yeast or there are just enough bi-products or fusels to trigger a response.
Interesting reading. Thanks.
My personal experience is that too much is …well too much 
However it seems like hangovers from homebrew are much less severe. I, like others, attribute this to most homebrews being unfiltered and thus containing brewers yeast. There was a story from Jim Koch (Samuel Adams) earlier in the year about how he actually takes brewers yeast capsules before he drinks to avoid getting drunk/hungover. I am sure it affects everyone differently but I think he might be on to something.
Corona for me.
Cobra Malt Liquor for me.
Well from what i know Alcohol/Ethanol metabolism occurs somewhat like this no matter who makes the beer. Around 5% is absorbed in the GI tract and the rest travels through circulation. The lungs and kidneys get ride of around 10% of it resulting in more trips to the thrown which in turns leads to dehydration. Dehydration sucks and really affects the brain mostly. The other 85% or so of Ethanol is processed through the liver. A few byproducts from the metabolism of ethanol by the liver that i know of are Acetaldehyde and radicals of some sort:) and high levels of acetaldehyde cause nausea and vomiting which in turn causes more Dehydration and loss of electrolytes. Fusel alcohols definitely doesnt help but it is definitely the result of Dehydration that cause that “hangover” So drink more WATER.
I can almost guarantee most are dehydrated even before we start drinking
so i agree to much is…well to much:)
Yes, too much is too much. I’m just baffled that now after drinking primarily Homebrew for a year or 2 now, I seem to have almost zero tolerance for store bought beer.
I may have to run an experiment and try a local beer called Red Oak. It’s unfiltered and they pride themselves on the Purity Law of 1516 when it comes to their brewing.
There is a claim that 60 degree cone on fermenter is what makes your beer ferment faster. This is due better internal currents and sugars are more available to the yeast.
I can report that this is correct. Fermentation that took me 10-11 days in 45 degree cone takes about 6-7 days. With ability of spunding beer has better head retention
So the speed of the fermentation does not necessarily mean bad beer. Just my observation.
I didn’t know that, Leos. In the end it’s all about what the beer tastes like anyway. Good info !
yeah thats good info. i might be getting one of those smaller conicals one day.
for ales at 4 days or so ok, but it’s suspect on lagers following that schedule.
Guess my lager ain’t so bad finishing at under a month after all.
Very cool ! Sounds like a really good beer.