I did my second batch of this recently and it’s tasty but Not Quite Right; not as grainy as THA, and a little paler.
I do a partial mash, using extract in place of about 50% of the grain bill, and cut the recipe in half, but basically, the full, all-grain recipe (found several places on the Web) is 10 lbs 2-row, 2 lbs Vienna, 1/2 lb Crystal (15L), 1/2 lb CaraPils, and then lots of Centennial in the wort and in dry-hopping. I used Nottingham in the second batch. The first I used California Ale yeast and felt it was a little closer to the mark, so I’m thinking I’ll go back to that. I’m hitting the what look like good numbers (1.068/1.012).
What if I bump up the Vienna a bit? Other ideas?
We can’t get this beer in these parts, so my interest in it is even higher than it was when I could walk into the local grocery store and buy a six-pack. I’m finding I really like single-hop beers… something about focusing on one particular hop is very pleasing to my palate.
I don’t know the clone of Two Hearted ale but I can;t imagine 2 lbs of vienna would do very much. Maybe try going with 50% of the grist as vienna. Also, not sure if the cara pils is necessary with 1/2 of crystal, but like I said, I don;t know the clone recipe.
Half Vienna? Why not? That’s the fun of homebrewing. Vienna has slightly lower diastatic power (or so I am reading) but Beersmith can help me adjust the bill.
FWIW, guys in my club have had good results using light Munich instead of Vienna. Bells also uses Breiss for most of their base malts.
I would not worry about the diastatic power of Vienna or Munich, as I made a 98% Vienna Vienna and a 96% Munich Dunkel, with no problems. At the % you are talking it will be no problem.
It does some, which is all that is needed to enhance the base malt. The base malt is probably Breiss - and this is from the AHA rally tour of the production brewery.
If you look at “Designing Great Beers”, under the lager section, Jahn Mallet was said to use 10-20% Munich in his Dortmunder to emulate Dortmunder malt when he was at Old Dominion. He is the Production Manager at Bell’s now. Coincidence, hmmm?
+1 I think Munich will get you much closer. That said, I think the key to cloning Two Hearted is harvesting yeast from a bottle. The yeast really lends a lot to the malt profile of this beer. I brewed a clone about a month ago and it’s very, very close. Here’s the recipe I used:
Bell’s Two Hearted Clone
14-B American IPA
Size: 5.15 gal
Efficiency: 80.0%
Attenuation: 83.0%
Calories: 211.02 kcal per 12.0 fl oz
Ingredients:
8 lb 2-Row
3 lb Light Munich
1 lb Caramel Malt 20L
1.35 oz Centennial (9.0%) - added during boil, boiled 60 min
1 oz Centennial (9.0%) - added during boil, boiled 20 min
.50 ea Whirlfloc Tablets (Irish moss) - added during boil, boiled 5 min
.50 oz Centennial (9.0%) - added dry to secondary fermenter
2 L starter of Bell’s Ale Yeast
Notes
Single infusion batch sparge
-Add 1/2 tsp CaCO3 and 1/4 tsp gypsum to mash
Thanks. Munich it is… I’ve already determined that the local LHBS’s carry Briess. I will try it with WLP001 again when I brew it the next time, for one very important reason. When we moved cross-country last fall we also moved away from Bell’s distribution areas! (See http://www.bellsbeer.com/distributor.html … I’m in San Francisco) But I’ve read that about using Bell’s for the yeast.
I wonder if I keep brewing and tinkering with “my” version without being able to compare it to the real thing if I’ll be surprised someday when I taste THA again. “Hey, that’s not Two-Hearted Ale!”
(Cultivating yeast from a bottle sounds good to learn… there must be local beers I can practice on.)