Ars article claims some comps are considering banning Zymatic brewed entries?

[skatz (Stevie)]

The cool think is, with small batches a sub $100 dorm fridge will serve well as a fermentation chamber.

[tesguino (tesgüino)]

@denny

To me, “brew” doesn’t include fermentation, although I can see how newbies might not catch the difference.

So, once the boil is over the brewer gets to go home? Or extract brewers don’t actually brew beer? Not sure where you logic comes from, but since the dictionary doesn’t agree with it, I can also see how newbies might not catch the difference.

[quote]brew
v. brewed, brew·ing, brews
v.tr.

1. To make (ale or beer) from malt and hops by infusion, boiling, and fermentation.
   [/quote]

[denny]

@tesguino

@denny

To me, “brew” doesn’t include fermentation, although I can see how newbies might not catch the difference.

So, once the boil is over the brewer gets to go home? Or extract brewers don’t actually brew beer? Not sure where you logic comes from, but since the dictionary doesn’t agree with it, I can also see how newbies might not catch the difference.

[quote]brew
v. brewed, brew·ing, brews
v.tr.

1. To make (ale or beer) from malt and hops by infusion, boiling, and fermentation.

[/quote]

Screw the dictionary…to me, brewing is wort production.  After that, it’s fermentation, not brewing.

[tesguino (tesgüino)]

@denny

Screw the dictionary…to me, brewing is wort production.  After that, it’s fermentation, not brewing.

Not saying I don’t agree. I guess that “American Homefermentationist Association” doesn’t have the same ring to it. 

[skatz (Stevie)]

@tesguino

@denny

Screw the dictionary…to me, brewing is wort production.  After that, it’s fermentation, not brewing.

Not saying I don’t agree. I guess that “American Homefermentationist Association” doesn’t have the same ring to it. 

But then it would need to include fermented foods as well.

[stevo155 (theDarkSide)]

Imagine the backlash is a comp did this.  I get friendly ribbing from my club members when I tell them I won a medal in cider when my based is Mott’s apple juice and not freshly pressed, unpasteurized cider.  If this was a requirement, my wall would have a lot less medals on it.

[denny]

@tesguino

@denny

Screw the dictionary…to me, brewing is wort production.  After that, it’s fermentation, not brewing.

Not saying I don’t agree. I guess that “American Homefermentationist Association” doesn’t have the same ring to it. 

But by definition, there’s still brewing involved…hence the name.

[tesguino (tesgüino)]

@denny

@denny

Screw the dictionary…to me, brewing is wort production.  After that, it’s fermentation, not brewing.

But by definition, there’s still brewing involved…hence the name.

Unless you’re an extract brewer  . . .

not that there’s anything wrong with that. 

[toby]

Brewers make wort.  Yeast makes beer.

[denny]

@tesguino

@denny

@denny

Screw the dictionary…to me, brewing is wort production.  After that, it’s fermentation, not brewing.

But by definition, there’s still brewing involved…hence the name.

Unless you’re an extract brewer  . . .

not that there’s anything wrong with that. 

still brewing IMO

[mtnrockhopper (Jimmy K)]

@klickitat_jim

…Because we all know that’s really all there is to it. Develop an IPA, a blonde, a stout, maybe a seasonal barrel aged sour, then… oh and a pumpkin beer, then go pro. You just… go pro. Yee haw.

Needs more IPA’s

[hopfenundmalz]

@AmandaK

I totally want one, but I’m so invested in a 5 or 10 gallon workflow, that I would need to take a step back and rethink too much. I would also need to sell a kidney to afford it.

We just had to sell the Sabco. Ha. ;D

I also wasn’t too sold on the batch size (I like to make a sh*tton of Pilsner when I can), but that’s all been alleviated now. I’m so jazzed up about making all kinds of different beer it’s not even funny. Tiny batches of sour beer! Test out a new malt! Test out a new hop! Tiny batch of a huge ABV beer (using a touch of extract, of course)! There are no consequences anymore now that I’m doing little 3 gallon batches and not spend 7+ hours on a brew day. I think I may even use it to make starter wort that I can pressure can - which may help me figure out the efficiencies on this thing.

But seriously, it’s a pretty cool little brewery. I never anticipated it getting me this excited about brewing again.

Have you considered a drauflassen schedule for your Pilsner if you want more. Brew and pitch into a big fermenter, brew again later that day or the next, and rack the fresh wort in on top. The yeast will have propagated, and will be ready to go with the fresh wort.

[tim_thomssen]

The article is basically another review, but I was surprised that comps might be considering banning entires. First of all, how would they know? Secondly, why are there so many change resistant farts out there?

PicoBrew’s dream of a homebrew appliance is not as stupid as it sounds | Ars Technica

As a prolific competition entrant myself, I welcome and encourage all who want to enter into competition to do so, regardless of the brewing system they use.

[AmandaK]

@hopfenundmalz

Have you considered a drauflassen schedule for your Pilsner if you want more. Brew and pitch into a big fermenter, brew again later that day or the next, and rack the fresh wort in on top. The yeast will have propagated, and will be ready to go with the fresh wort.

Absolutely, just didn’t know the real name of it. I remember taking a tour a few years ago of Schlafly’s Bottleworks, they had a 40 (or 30) BBL Brewhouse and 120 BBL fermenters and said they do that.  A newer brewery in the KC area does it as well, just to keep up with demand. (He has a 7bbl brewhouse with now 14bbl fermenters.)

[klickitat_jim]

It just makes the win that much sweeter. Tongue in cheek, I believe this is why GABF doesn’t allow homebrewers. They dont want to find out that the industry got beat by some redneck with a cooler and a turkey fryer.

[69franx]

@klickitat_jim

It just makes the win that much sweeter. Tongue in cheek, I believe this is why GABF doesn’t allow homebrewers. They dont want to find out that the industry got beat by some redneck with a cooler and a turkey fryer.

My sentiments exactly Jim, of course this semi-red neck has never entered a home brew comp, there is always next time though!

[system]

@klickitat_jim

It just makes the win that much sweeter. Tongue in cheek, I believe this is why GABF doesn’t allow homebrewers. They dont want to find out that the industry got beat by some redneck with a cooler and a turkey fryer.

It would be detrimental to their main goal: marketing the breweries who pay to join/enter.