Closet cleaner Lager

So this is what I came up with the night before last, I was looking to get rid of some grain leftover from previous bulk purchases and I did not have time to go buy anything at all from the HBS.

#3 Vienna (Briess)
#4 Briess 2 Row (1.8L)
#2 Marris Otter

1 OZ US Hallertaur 60
1 OZ US Hallertaur 5

Whirfloc etc

I hit a 1.052 OG on a 60 minute boil and lazy pitched two half full pint jars of 34/70 slurry @ 60. Will ramp to 65  tomorrow probably, maybe.

BeerSmith puts it at 4.3 SRM, which I would say is probably accurate based on what I saw in the hydrometer. We shall see how she goes… I guess I’ll at least find out how shoddy I can get with lager brewing and still make a decent beer.

I have been wanting to experiment with 34/70 at higher temps to see if I can discern any off flavors.  Call it a palate test, or what have you, however I feel like I could use a challenge.  I hope your enjoy your kitchen sink lager…  as long as it ferments you’re doing better than drinking hams and natty-ice.

I’ve fermented several in the mid-60s. Tastes indistinguishable from the same yeast in the 50s or 40s.

I would argue that 34/70 is the most flavor neutral lager yeast there is as well… So there is that!

Out of curiosity, what were your pitch temps for these? I’ve fermented this yeast in the low-mid 60’s on many occasions, but I’ve always pitched it in the mid-upper 40’s before ramping it up quickly even in those cases. I’m wondering whether that low pitch temp is really necessary, and I’m just doing it out of habit/old brewer’s voodoo.

Low 60s and then let it come up to the mid-60s, which is what I normally do with American/English ale yeasts. I’ve done that both with dry yeast and harvested slurry.

FWIW I pitched at exactly 60. I let it sit for 48 and then to 63 for 24 hours, its now rolling along at 65 where it will stay for a week more. I will let you know how it turns out. I have pitched and kept it lower for longer as well as rocked it for 65 straight through. As long as it gets a good cold crash/fining/lager period, I haven’t noticed a difference besides much slower lag time when pitching cold (under 58).

For anyone who is wondering, this beer turned out fairly solid. It had an almost vinous/honey sweetness the first week on tap while it cleared. Then, almost overnight the white wine hints faded. It is now a brilliantly clear very light colored lager with a solid head. I have finally tasted the biscuit/nutty flavor people say they get from marris otter! I have always struggled to perceive it as anything more than a fuller mouthed pale malt. I have no idea how I would categorize this beer, except that it is like drinking a full flavored light lager with very nice complex nutty notes that leave it anything but one dimensional.

Doesn’t sound bad at all.  Nice job.

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