Competition Ethics

Because maybe you have another reason for brewing than simply “I like it and my drunken friends like it, so it must be good”.  If that’s your motivation, no problem, but not everyone has the same reasons.

I don’t have drunken friends and I don’t share my home-made beverages with people like that.  I don’t know anybody who does.  People like that are usually the ones pounding down canoe beer.

A note on the RIS with flavorings.  The commercial examples for the style are led by 3 Floyds Dark Lord which uses a locally roasted coffee and other flavorings to get to the final product.  So it should be acceptable to do the same to replicate the style.  When judging, I would assume that some entries are going to have non-malt flavorings and any notes I get from the entry form would help with making specific recipe comments as opposed to adding or detracting from the score. RIS almost seems like a subcategory of 21 or 23 at times.

I never said my friends were drunkards. They just happen to like my beer. Please continue drinking by yourself and earning ribbons.

Checking the bjcp site, Dark Lord is indeed the first commercial example listed for Imperial Stout.
Checking the 3 Floyds site, the beer contains coffee and vanilla.
So, my whole theory is dashed, I guess.
What’s up with that?

If you are defensive about your experience with competitions, why not just avoid the threads discussing them?

Reading the introduction to the BJCP style guidelines, especially the “Notes to Judges” section clears a lot of this whole conversation up…

Perhaps there are members of the Brewers’ Association who feel that the association spends too much time and resources promoting competition instead of just promoting brewing?

I didn’t see that opinion voiced.

I think they spend too much money on competitions.

Well there ya go then; that opinion must not exist.

Are you a member?

I didn’t say that…I was referring to this discussion.

How much do they spend?

Well, I’ll ask you that question. Shouldn’t it be public record?

What does the BA have to do with homebrewing competitions?

Did not intend for this to be a debate on competitions, value of medals, etc. Just wanted the advice of some of the highest ranked judges on interpretting the rules.

Actually, any particular competition can set the rules any way they desire. The BJCP nor the AHA has any say so WHATSOEVER in that. Bottle size, limiting entries, changing the guidelines for a comp, etc…all are perfectly fine.

Nice stringer of bass in your avatar there stlaleman!

Are you allowed to post to this forum if you are not?