Fruity, tropical hop rhizomes I can actually get my hands on?

[pete_baker (pete b)]

@erockrph

I’m in the same boat, Eric I want to grow English hops but not sure if I can. My cascade and galena do great and I make use of them but I’m brewing more UK styes these days.

Since Fuggles seem to grow just fine at lower latitudes (Styrian Goldings are actually Fuggles), and are one of Cascade’s parents, I’m hoping they are a safer bet around here for an English hop.

My problem is I’m OK with fuggles but love, love, love EKG. I use it more than any other hop.

[hopfenundmalz]

Willamette is a Fuggles triploid. It is a little more robust, but hasn’t done much for me.

The Fuggles you grow in the US may not taste like British grown Fuggles.

[erockrph]

@hopfenundmalz

Willamette is a Fuggles triploid. It is a little more robust, but hasn’t done much for me.

The Fuggles you grow in the US may not taste like British grown Fuggles.

Bingo. Styrian Goldings taste very little like UK grown Fuggles in my opinion. I’m thinking that Fuggle is highly dependent on terroir.

[pete_baker (pete b)]

@erockrph

@hopfenundmalz

Willamette is a Fuggles triploid. It is a little more robust, but hasn’t done much for me.

The Fuggles you grow in the US may not taste like British grown Fuggles.

Bingo. Styrian Goldings taste very little like UK grown Fuggles in my opinion. I’m thinking that Fuggle is highly dependent on terroir.

According to Denny and some others (not me, I like it) that terroir would include potting soil. Maybe it is grown in the leftover peat used to make peated malt.

[b-hoppy]

I’ve grown Fuggle, Willamette, Golding etc over the years with no real luck as the most any of those have ever yielded has been maybe 3-6 ounces, not worth the effort.  Brewers Gold on the other hand is a beast here in Ohio but is quite a bit different (catty, juicy, pungent) than the others.  This may be an option though: http://www.greatlakeshops.com/vojvodina.html.  I got one a few years ago and it gives me between 8 oz and a pound at harvest.  The aroma is really pleasant and earthy much like the Golding & Fuggle with a moderate alpha.  Grows well with a very minimal response to downy mildew.

[pete_baker (pete b)]

@b-hoppy

I’ve grown Fuggle, Willamette, Golding etc over the years with no real luck as the most any of those have ever yielded has been maybe 3-6 ounces, not worth the effort.  Brewers Gold on the other hand is a beast here in Ohio but is quite a bit different (catty, juicy, pungent) than the others.  This may be an option though: http://www.greatlakeshops.com/vojvodina.html.  I got one a few years ago and it gives me between 8 oz and a pound at harvest.  The aroma is really pleasant and earthy much like the Golding & Fuggle with a moderate alpha.  Grows well with a very minimal response to downy mildew.

Sounds interesting. I wonder if I can find the hops for sale to see if I like them.

[hopfenundmalz]

@b-hoppy

I’ve grown Fuggle, Willamette, Golding etc over the years with no real luck as the most any of those have ever yielded has been maybe 3-6 ounces, not worth the effort.  Brewers Gold on the other hand is a beast here in Ohio but is quite a bit different (catty, juicy, pungent) than the others.  This may be an option though: http://www.greatlakeshops.com/vojvodina.html.  I got one a few years ago and it gives me between 8 oz and a pound at harvest.  The aroma is really pleasant and earthy much like the Golding & Fuggle with a moderate alpha.  Grows well with a very minimal response to downy mildew.

Sounds interesting. I wonder if I can find the hops for sale to see if I like them.

I have bought from hopsdirect, I see they have leaf and pellets available. Used in a Ballantine IPA clone.

[pete_baker (pete b)]

@hopfenundmalz

@b-hoppy

I’ve grown Fuggle, Willamette, Golding etc over the years with no real luck as the most any of those have ever yielded has been maybe 3-6 ounces, not worth the effort.  Brewers Gold on the other hand is a beast here in Ohio but is quite a bit different (catty, juicy, pungent) than the others.  This may be an option though: http://www.greatlakeshops.com/vojvodina.html.  I got one a few years ago and it gives me between 8 oz and a pound at harvest.  The aroma is really pleasant and earthy much like the Golding & Fuggle with a moderate alpha.  Grows well with a very minimal response to downy mildew.

Thanks Jeff, I think I’ll pick some up soon and hopefully I can brew something up so I can taste them before growing season, still 6 weeks and more away.
Sounds interesting. I wonder if I can find the hops for sale to see if I like them.

I have bought from hopsdirect, I see they have leaf and pellets available. Used in a Ballantine IPA clone.

[reverseapachemaster]

It should not be too long before some of the newer public domain varieties become available to us as rhizomes but you’re probably a year or two early (maybe more). If you can get Pacific Gem then that’s probably your best shot right now at what you are after.