Hops suggestion for Single Hops American IPA?

[skatz (Stevie)]

Citra is a fine hop, use it all the time, but I don’t like it solo. Throw in any other c hop and it is great

[fmader]

@ynotbrusum

If it appears, I’m hoping it fades in the next month…I wonder if it is a result of certain yeasts with Mosaic beers - do you recall the yeast you used when you got the garlic thing?  Our yeast was US-05 FWIW.

WLP 001 Cali Ale

[ynotbrusum]

Well I’m back to hoping then…

[fmader]

Wow, never had that from them…yet. It really sounds like a harvest thing according to a lot of the wisdom here and elsewhere. The timing of the harvest, soil, etc.

Yeah. I hate that I get that flavor on my palette since everybody else seems to enjoy it. I won’t say it’s as extreme as Summit, but I definitely get an undesired taste that’s certainly not blue berry. I pick up a similar taste in most commercial beers that I’ve had with it. One that really stands out in particular is Great Lakes Chill Wave IIPA (formally known as alchemy hour).

Now back to Citra… Weyerbacher Simcoe is a good beer 

[jonhughey_att.net (HoosierBrew)]

@ynotbrusum

Well I’m back to hoping then…

I think it must be a pretty isolated thing, for the most part.  A ton of breweries and brewpubs are using it now, I’ve used it a lot - I have to believe if it were something akin to the garlic problem with Summit, you wouldn’t see it used so much.

[fmader]

@ynotbrusum

Well I’m back to hoping then…

I think everybody perceives hop flavors differently. I’m not saying that it’s bad, but it’s not for me.

[jonhughey_att.net (HoosierBrew)]

@fmader

Now back to Citra… Weyerbacher Simcoe is a good beer 

[wort-h.o.g]

Citra is a fine hop, use it all the time, but I don’t like it solo. Throw in any other c hop and it is great

understood. depends on personal taste and style for sure.  i do like it blended as mentioned-centennial, cascade and citra.

[redbeerman]

For me, Mosaic=

[hopfenundmalz]

I wouldn’t use any British or German hops in a single hop AIPA, for starters. So no Kent Goldings, Fuggles, Hallertau, Saaz, etc.

These are good for this : Centennial, Citra, Simcoe, Mosaic, Ahtanum, Chinook, Equinox, Nugget, Columbus, to name a few.

EDIT  -  I’d add Galaxy, Nelson Sauvin, Azacca, Calypso and El Dorado.  An El Dorado IPA would be a ‘fruit bomb’ but it might be interesting…once.

I plan on doing a Mandarina Bavaria Pale Ale in the near future. Huell Melon would be another good choice. Don’t count the Germans out.

[AnimALE]

Cannot go wrong with all Centennials

[jrdunne (Joe Sr.)]

@fmader

My suggestion would be to use Centennial.

100% agreement.

[jonhughey_att.net (HoosierBrew)]

@ynotbrusum

My club is doing s single hop pale ale experiment - all the same recipe and IBU’s matched (i.e., rather than by weight).  My hop is mosaic - the hydrometer sample was very good, so I have high hopes for it once carbed.  We do the tasting in December, so I hope nothing fades too badly before then…can’t say what it might be like at a higher IBU level such as an IPA, but I’m thinking it might be a good candidate.

Hey, be sure to post how it comes out !  I’m curious to see your impressions. I say no worries.

[ynotbrusum]

Well, I had to drink a small glass tonight to see if I could pick up garlic in it - knowing ahead of time that it might be there…but I could not.  I will let it carb further and see what I get.  The tasting for the club is in December, so I will try to find this thread after that happens.  I am not a big dry hop guy (I do it for beers that call for it, of course), so the beer seems fine, but hoppy to my palate (30 IBU’s, so not overly bitter).

[yso191]

The IPA I just brewed is the first one to exhibit an onion flavor.  It is not overwhelming, but I do hope it dissipates.  As I understand it the issue is harvesting the hops too late.  That is when onion shows up.  Anyway, for what its worth here the hopping schedule I used:

1 10 ml hop shot at 60 minutes
2.00 oz Amarillo [8.80 %] - Boil 5.0 min
2.00 oz Citra [14.10 %] - Boil 5.0 min
2.00 oz Citra [14.10 %] - Steep/Whirlpool
2.00 oz Mosaic [12.70 %] - Steep/Whirlpool
3.00 oz Mosaic [12.70 %] - Dry Hop 5.0 Days Hop
2.00 oz Citra [14.10 %] - Dry Hop 5.0 Days

[Haawa_Swede]

Thanks to all you brewmasters for sharing. One of the reasons I asked about single hops beer is that started growing hops in Sweden using rizhomes from seven American varieties that a friend bought for me, and I collected in L.A. in May. First year harvest was not big (totally 10 oz/300 grams dried weight), but all grew to the max height of the trellis (13 / 16 ft). The varieties that I managed to get were Magnum, Cascade, Zeus, Chinook, Nugget, Willamette and Tettang.  The “+1” comment stuck, do you see any good combinations using my limited hops stock, or do I need other varieties?

[fmader]

@Haawa_Swede

Thanks to all you brewmasters for sharing. One of the reasons I asked about single hops beer is that started growing hops in Sweden using rizhomes from seven American varieties that a friend bought for me, and I collected in L.A. in May. First year harvest was not big (totally 10 oz/300 grams dried weight), but all grew to the max height of the trellis (13 / 16 ft). The varieties that I managed to get were Magnum, Cascade, Zeus, Chinook, Nugget, Willamette and Tettang.  The “+1” comment stuck, do you see any good combinations using my limited hops stock, or do I need other varieties?

Your cascade, Zeus, and chinook will work very well together. Zeus is essentially columbus.

[theoman]

@Haawa_Swede

Thanks to all you brewmasters for sharing. One of the reasons I asked about single hops beer is that started growing hops in Sweden using rizhomes from seven American varieties that a friend bought for me, and I collected in L.A. in May. First year harvest was not big (totally 10 oz/300 grams dried weight), but all grew to the max height of the trellis (13 / 16 ft). The varieties that I managed to get were Magnum, Cascade, Zeus, Chinook, Nugget, Willamette and Tettang.  The “+1” comment stuck, do you see any good combinations using my limited hops stock, or do I need other varieties?

Play around. You might discover a great blend that you didn’t think would work. I don’t see anything there I’d be repelled by. But if you want a recommendation, I could probably live off of various combinations of Willamette, Cascade and Tettnanger. I’m considering planting hops next year and those 3 are at the top of my list.

[hopfenundmalz]

@Haawa_Swede

Thanks to all you brewmasters for sharing. One of the reasons I asked about single hops beer is that started growing hops in Sweden using rizhomes from seven American varieties that a friend bought for me, and I collected in L.A. in May. First year harvest was not big (totally 10 oz/300 grams dried weight), but all grew to the max height of the trellis (13 / 16 ft). The varieties that I managed to get were Magnum, Cascade, Zeus, Chinook, Nugget, Willamette and Tettang.  The “+1” comment stuck, do you see any good combinations using my limited hops stock, or do I need other varieties?

Willamette is essentially Fuggles.
US Tettnang was found to be Fuggles through DNA testing.

[Haawa_Swede]

@hopfenundmalz

Willamette is essentially Fuggles.
US Tettnang was found to be Fuggles through DNA testing.

Thanks a lot for the info.
Hmm, not so well chosen then, I have to consider this. I have place for a total of 16 plants, overkill to have four “Fuggles”. I must try to get other varieties from US next spring.