Wait a moment! Trub - you mean “the layer of sediment that appears at the bottom of the fermenter after yeast has completed the bulk of the fermentation”? (taken from Wiktionary). As I know, the modern yeasts don’t require the secondary fermentation. I always implemented a single stage fermentation and always made a perfect beer. I tried once a two-stage fermentation, and didn’t notice any difference.
About bottling. What I learned on their site, the beer is bottled after the primary (and single) fermenting is completed. For ales it’s about one week or may be longer. Then I need to condition the beer in bottles or kegs, usually at room temp. So, likely the weekly batch is real.
Regarding the bottling. I don’t know for sure, but I think that the apparatus will allow me to dispense the brewed and cooled beer for further fermenting in external fermenter, if needed. And immediately I can start new batch.
I guess in a way the Z is close becasue you can ferment in the keg you brew in. But you still need to control fermentation temp and do something about packaging/serving.
Dont know about Wiktionary. Trub is the material precipitated during the boil. It contains large amounts of lipids. These are major factors in oxidative staling, and since the system doesn’t ferment and package in a closed manner, oxidation will be greatly accelerated. If you’re going to use this just for brewing and ferment separately (and I recommend fermenting in a dedicated system,) then, as others mention, there are surely superior brewing systems available to you.
how about getting a larger system so you dont have to brew often but still have beer, again just trying to help and if you do not like brewing beer larger batches will allow you not to brew often, or how about extract brewing you will have good beer and its almost like making a pot of soup in terms of process
Denny, isn’t one of the targets of the Z restaurants, who want to serve their own product, but without having a dedicated brewing staff devoting a lot of time and attention? If I’m remembering right, that sounds a lot like the goal of the OP. Does most of the work on brew day, you just run it into a fermenter, pitch the yeast, and wait, right?
And how about that Brew Jacket or whatever it’s called you’ve been using? Might the combination do the trick?
Yep, correct on all counts. A Z and a Brewjacket would be a perfect, fast, easy combination.
ETA: Robert, that is a genius idea and I hadn’t even thought of it. Brewjacket sent me a drilled corny lid for the rod and I haven’t used it yet. Both that and the Z will be getting a trial run this week.
Don’t think the Vessi is around any more. We talked about it in the new book, but when we tried to contact them just before publication we got crickets.
Though I am not in the market and they don’t send me kits to evaluate, it seems there are some fairly unhappy customers that should be considered if approaching the Picobrew Z:
Did you read the whole thread Looks like the people who have actually used it like it The ones who are posting negatives are speculating. Can you point out an unhappy customer I may have missed?
or he can just brew extract like i mentioned, brew day is maybe 45 mins to an hour minus clean up and obviously fermentation, if i was in his shoes i would just brew extract
Any (good) home brewing friends? I’d jump at the chance the brew, say, 10 gal batches and trade 5 gal to a friend in exchange for all the ingredients. (Or if it’s legal in your country you could just buy the beer outright.) Depending on how often you’re planning on brewing that could easily be less expensive than an all-in-one system.
Admittedly I didn’t read every word because I’m only remotely interested in these automated systems. I am simply attempting to help the OP ck out any recommendations, saw that and pointed it out.
Maybe it’s just me but when one guy asked for his money back and another guy answers saying the other folks that asked for their money back received it quickly it means multiple people have asked for a refund. Normally, around here when someone wants their money back they are considered unhappy.
It would be nice if you would have done a bit of research before posting, but here’s what it looks like to me. The most common reason in that thread for people wanting their money back was the length of time it took Pico to deliver. Also, the comments start 8 years ago, so there may well be little relevance to today. But that’s a long way in the past. The Z is shipping and I can tell you from my own experience that it functions as advertised. If you look towrd the end of the thread, there are comments from people who are actually using it. I and many others are very happy with it.