Pale ale recipe advice

I am planning a tropical hop pale ale and wondering what ya’all think. Does anyone have an opinion on the hop combo? Also should I drop the Caramel 40 since tropical hops can have perceived sweetness?

Style: American Pale Ale
Color: 5.3 srm
Bitterness: 42.7 IBUs
Boil Time: 60 min
Est OG: 1.052 (12.9° P)
Est FG: 1.012 SG (3.1° P)
ABV: 5.2%
Mash 60 @ 150

Ingredients
Amount Name Type #
9 lbs 15.5 oz Pale Malt (2 Row) US
15.8 oz Munich Malt - 10L (10.0 SRM)
3.9 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM)
0.35 oz Magnum [14.0%] - Boil 60 min
1.08 Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15 min)
1.00 tsp Yeast Nutrient (Boil 15 min)
0.35 oz Equinox (HBC 366) [15.0%] - Boil 10 min
0.35 oz Loral [11.0%] - Boil 10 min
0.35 oz El Dorado [15.0%] - Boil 10 min
0.35 oz Equinox (HBC 366) [15.0%] - Boil 5 min
0.35 oz Loral [11.0%] - Boil 5 min
0.35 oz El Dorado [15.0%] - Boil 5 min
Starter Dry English Ale (White Labs #WLP007)

Notes
At flameout, cool quickly to 175 and then whirlpool hop for 30 minutes:
1.0oz el dorado
1.0oz equanot
1.0oz loral

Looks good to me.  The C-40 is not that big of a deal.  I think the issue is whether you prefer an APA with a bit of crystal malt in it or not.  If you do, I don’t think the sweetness will be cloying.

Are you planning to dry-hop this?  I would.

Looks good to me.  The crystal 40 should be fine unless you don’t like it.  I use it in mine.

That’s really not a lot of crystal. Looks to be a good beer, and I agree that a dry hop will really sell the tropical “flavor” to the nose.

I was definitely thinking about dry hopping it but haven’t used those tropical type hops before so I didn’t want to overdo it. But one more ounce of each in dry hop it is! :+1:t4:

I stole an idea from the Brulosophy guys.  When a recipe has crystal, substitute honey malt.  (lower end SRM, up to 40)

Trapae, please share how that beer turned out  I was thinking of doing a similar IPA.

Thank you.

I ended up not liking Loral.  I did a couple experiments dropping some hops into Bud Light and tasting it a couple days later to see what the hop tastes like.  I did several pale ales with equinot, Mandarina Bavaria with El Dorado, but didn’t quite love the results. I ended up morphing the recipe into the one below that I am extremely happy with. Great mix of hops. Really good tropical flavor with a hint of herbal. Cheers.

Batch Size: 6.33 gal Style: American IPA (21A)
Boil Size: 8.0 gal Style Guide: BJCP 2015
Color: 5.9 SRM         Equipment: Electric-BTD-60min-IPA-6.33-garage
Bitterness: 54.1 IBUs     Boil Time: 60 min
OG: 1.060
FG: 1.009
ABV: 6.7%

Ingredients
Amount Name Type #

13 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM)
9.04 oz Cara-Pils/Dextrine (2.0 SRM)
9.04 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM)
2.96 oz Wheat, Flaked (1.6 SRM)
0.42 oz Magnum [14.0%] - Boil 60 min
1.00        Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15 min)
0.80 oz Strata [13.1%] - Boil 15 min
0.45 oz Idaho #7 [13.0%] - Boil 15 min
0.30 oz Citra [12.0%] - Boil 15 min
1.00 tsp Yeast Nutrient (Boil 15 min)
1.00         Chiller/whirlpool (Boil 10 min)
0.50 oz Strata [13.1%] - Boil 7 min
0.30 oz Idaho #7 [13.0%] - Boil 7 min
0.20 oz Citra [12.0%] - Boil 7 min
#WLP001 starter

Notes
At flameout, cool quickly to 172 and then whirlpool hop for 30 minutes: 0.8 oz Citra, 1.95 oz Idaho 7, 2.85 oz Strata

Mash 60 @ 152

Cool.  I decided I will try a combo of warrior, equanot, and comet this time.  Really appreciate the recipe you just shared.  Lots of new hops to try.

Please report back how yours turns out.

Will do.

Update:  got paranoid about green pepper taste in Equanot, so instead of Equanot/Comet/Warrior, instead I’m going to brew my IPA this weekend with Warrior and Comet for 60 min bittering.  And then 5 min, flameout with 15 minute hopstand (no wort chilling), and dryhop using Comet, Galaxy and El Dorado… a little heavier on the El Dorado since Comet and Galaxy are pretty potent.

I’ll be sure to report back.

Cheers.

I really like Strata, I’m glad to see you like it with Idaho 7 because a future beer is using those 2 hops.