Pliny the Elder water profile

Hi

Does anyone know what the water profile is for this beer? I have noticed some references to Mosher’s ‘Ideal Pale Ale’ profile which has a huge sulphate amount of 350. Something I am struggling to get up to without adding too much Ca.

Thanks in advance
Phil

To increase Sulfate without adding Calcium, use Epsom Salt (MgSO4). I generally use equal amounts of Gypsum and Epsom Salt for higher Sulfate levels.

Yeah but won’t that increase the magnesium levels substantially? My baseline mg level is 9 and the Mosher profile calls for 18. I am fairly new to water chemistry. Does the mg level not play that significant a role in the overall profile?

good question, i am super cautious with muh MgSO4. i heard it can really be bad even over 30ppm

A gram of Epsom Salt dissolved in 5 gallons of water adds 5.2 ppm Magnesium and 20.6 ppm Sulfate. I often add 4 or 5 grams to the mash without any adverse effects. I usually don’t do brewing salt additions post mash.

I plan to have my tap water analysed to give me more accurate numbers. I have 5.7g of epsom addition that pushes my mg total to 29.1 ppm

Good idea. You probably shouldn’t make any water additions until know your starting point.

To get to your destination, you need to know where you are.

i was confused about my tap water, so phoned the water treatment dept myself and they were happy/interested to send me the data re: homebrewing. i think i just phoned city hall offices and asked, and they linked me.

what does 5.7g of epsom salt look like flat on a tsp?

When I have used it, it looks white and grainy… :stuck_out_tongue:

The stuff i have is semi see-through and I rarely use my spoons because I am trying to be so accurate, scales are needed. I might just tinker with the amounts to get them to suit spoon measurements though. I have had my doubts about the accuracy of my scales, even though they measure 0.1g.

yeah, i asked because that is a weakpoint of mine, my scale goes to the gram, no decimal points, and i feel like its not exact to the individual gram but more like within 2 to 5 grams. so i’m keeping estimated weights in bru’n’water and writing “1/2 flat tsp” etc in my notes

I’m friends with a former brewer at Russian River. The water going into the brewery is quite soft and they add a remarkable amount of calcium sulfate, both in the mash and boil. I think 300ppm is a reasonable amount of sulfate to shoot for. He says they arent overly concerned with a high calcium content resulting from the mineral additions.

Awesome. Thanks for the top tip, mate.

happy to help.