Resin

[theoman]

I often see resin used as a flavor descriptor for hops. I know the wine world uses it as well. What I’m wondering is, what’s the point of reference? Bong water? How are we supposed to know what resin tastes like?

[AmandaK]

I use the word “resinous” occasionally on a score sheet. What I mean by that is that the hop aroma/flavor is so intense that it’s almost like I’m holding the hop cone in my hand and getting all of the sticky resins from the inside of the cone into the beer. For me, this term usually accompanies other descriptors like “dank”, “piney” or “citrusy”.

[system]

What about “dank”? Does this reefer to the precursor to bong water?

[mtnrockhopper (Jimmy K)]

What about “dank”? Does this reefer to the precursor to bong water?

HA

[system]

Freudian suggestion

[klickitat_jim]

My latest IPA isn’t dank but it is chronic

[skatz (Stevie)]

This is how I can look at it. Weed might be dank, but dank does not mean weed. Those living in older homes with basements in humid climates will know what I mean. Dank is musty¹⁰.

[system]

This is how I can look at it. Weed might be dank, but dank does not mean weed. Those living in older homes with basements in humid climates will know what I mean. Dank is musty¹⁰.

But a dank IPA is not musty.

[jarhno]

To use an old expression, this thread seems to have gone to pot.

But, I agree with AmandaK.

@AmandaK

I use the word “resinous” occasionally on a score sheet. What I mean by that is that the hop aroma/flavor is so intense that it’s almost like I’m holding the hop cone in my hand and getting all of the sticky resins from the inside of the cone into the beer. For me, this term usually accompanies other descriptors like “dank”, “piney” or “citrusy”.

+1.000

[erockrph]

To me “resinous” is sort of the flavor part of a strong bittering character. It’s sort of like licking pine sap as opposed to the aromatics of freshly crushed pine needles or juniper berries. It’s sort of the same character, but resin is a bit more abrasive and clings to the tongue, while piney is more fleeting.

And when I use the term “dank” I am definitely referring to cannabis. The wet basement thing is more “musty” to me. I get that more from Brett than I do with hops.

[AmandaK]

@erockrph

To me “resinous” is sort of the flavor part of a strong bittering character. It’s sort of like licking pine sap as opposed to the aromatics of freshly crushed pine needles or juniper berries. It’s sort of the same character, but resin is a bit more abrasive and clings to the tongue, while piney is more fleeting.

Agreed.

What about “dank”? Does this reefer to the precursor to bong water?

I see what you did there. 

@erockrph

And when I use the term “dank” I am definitely referring to cannabis. The wet basement thing is more “musty” to me. I get that more from Brett than I do with hops.

Same here - I use “dank” to refer to the fresh buds, not the bong water. Totally different.

[klickitat_jim]

Dank is a contraction missing an apostrophe. D`ank meaning Dude that is rANK.

[kylekohlmorgen]

@erockrph

To me “resinous” is sort of the flavor part of a strong bittering character. It’s sort of like licking pine sap as opposed to the aromatics of freshly crushed pine needles or juniper berries. It’s sort of the same character, but resin is a bit more abrasive and clings to the tongue, while piney is more fleeting.

And when I use the term “dank” I am definitely referring to cannabis. The wet basement thing is more “musty” to me. I get that more from Brett than I do with hops.

I always thought of ‘resinous’ almost as a mouthfeel component. Its not the type of hop flavors, but the way they coat and stick to my palate.

[theoman]

@kylekohlmorgen

I always thought of ‘resinous’ almost as a mouthfeel component. Its not the type of hop flavors, but the way they coat and stick to my palate.

That would actually make sense to me. But it’s usually used in reference to flavor.

I understand “piney” or “pine resin,” but resin itself doesn’t make much sense to me.

“Dank” makes me think of a feeling or atmosphere, not flavor.

So, what I get from this thread (besides that y’all are a bunch of stoners), is that “resin” and “dank” as flavor descriptors are ambiguous and therefore useless. If we can’t think of something known and familiar to use as a reference, why make shit up?

[morticaixavier]

@theoman

@kylekohlmorgen

I always thought of ‘resinous’ almost as a mouthfeel component. Its not the type of hop flavors, but the way they coat and stick to my palate.

That would actually make sense to me. But it’s usually used in reference to flavor.

I understand “piney” or “pine resin,” but resin itself doesn’t make much sense to me.

“Dank” makes me think of a feeling or atmosphere, not flavor.

So, what I get from this thread (besides that y’all are a bunch of stoners), is that “resin” and “dank” as flavor descriptors are ambiguous and therefore useless. If we can’t think of something known and familiar to use as a reference, why make s*** up?

I would put Dank solidly in the ‘smelling slightly like cat pee’ area with simcoe and good indica/sativa hybrids.

Resinous is a combination of tooth coating oily/tarry mouthfeel with pine resin/turpentine like flavours/aromas. This goes with retsina (big surprise) strong fatty fish like salmon (particularly when smoked), cascade hops, yarrow, oregano, and classic Single strain indica.

then you get fruity/juicy like lot’s of the new NZ hops, actual fruit, and single strain sativa.

[system]

@theoman

@kylekohlmorgen

I always thought of ‘resinous’ almost as a mouthfeel component. Its not the type of hop flavors, but the way they coat and stick to my palate.

That would actually make sense to me. But it’s usually used in reference to flavor.

I understand “piney” or “pine resin,” but resin itself doesn’t make much sense to me.

“Dank” makes me think of a feeling or atmosphere, not flavor.

So, what I get from this thread (besides that y’all are a bunch of stoners), is that “resin” and “dank” as flavor descriptors are ambiguous and therefore useless. If we can’t think of something known and familiar to use as a reference, why make s*** up?

I don’t think it’s ambiguous. Sensory descriptors come from sensory memory which comes from sensory experience. “Dank” is a very common sensory descriptor in the craft beer community, usually spoken with a wink and a nod and generally understood. Go figure. Shouldn’t be too surprising considering the similar bouquets of hops’ evil cousin.

What should really come as a surprise from this thread…

@erockrph

To me “resinous” is sort of the flavor part of a strong bittering character. It’s sort of like licking pine sap as opposed to the aromatics of freshly crushed pine needles or juniper berries. It’s sort of the same character, but resin is a bit more abrasive and clings to the tongue, while piney is more fleeting.

And when I use the term “dank” I am definitely referring to cannabis. The wet basement thing is more “musty” to me. I get that more from Brett than I do with hops.

Some people actually lick pine sap!

[klickitat_jim]

hops’ evil cousin.

Blackberries?

[jonhughey_att.net (HoosierBrew)]

I don’t see any ambiguity whatsoever.  I take “resiny” to mean the intense, long lasting, oily hop character (from Columbus primarily) that coats the tongue, reminiscent of cannabis (or so I’ve heard ;)).  Works for me.

[system]

It makes me think of sticky tree sap.  I’d say “sappy” but people might think I’m talking about the Hello Kitty beer.

[ynotbrusum]

Resin is exactly the word used by several folks to describe my Spruce beer made with fresh spring spruce tips in place of hops.  Kind of a wet hop approach using spruce tips instead.  Pretty resiny, for sure.  Not necessarily really dank, I don’t think, but maybe a little…