Scottish Light (60/-)

This thread has sent me on the trail for a nice Scottish Light (60/-) recipe.  :slight_smile:

Of course, that trail was bound to lead to Pattinson’s Barclay Perkins blog.

Interesting that these recipes call for Pale and either Flaked Maize or Barley, with Invert and (sometimes) Black Malt.  Pretty simple beers.

How’s this look:

85% Maris Otter
11% Flaked Maize
4% Roasted Barley

Mash at 155°.
Also, pull some of the mash and boil it down to a bit of syrup, add it back to the boil.

15-20 IBU’s at the top of the boil.
A sprinkle of EKG at the end.

WLP028 or WY1728

1.035 OG
SRM 11-12
ABV 3.2-3.5 depending on attenuation.

Thoughts?

Do Scottish brewers do the boil for a 60 schilling? Many homebrewery do that for a Scotch Ale.

Good question. I really have no idea but thought it might add a bit of caramel flavor without using any actual caramel malt.  I would love to hear more thoughts on that.

I am collecting RO water for my 175th brewday since AL made Homebrewing legal which will be a tip of the hat to Belhaven 60/-.  Mr Wheeler says it is an excellent example of a Scottish Mild with just 87.3% Pale Malt, 2.7% Crystal malt, 3.6% Black malt and 6.4% sugar.

Though he does state to boil the wort 90 min, he doesn’t indicate drawing off the wort and boiling it down to a syrup.  He also has a recipe for Belhaven 80/- and 90/- neither of which call for boiling down the wort to a syrup either. This may or may not be authentic but I think I’ll follow his lead for this one.

In his discussion of the sugar he does recommend invert so I made some invert syrup to use in my version of this recipe.

As far as I know, the boildown is a recent (last 20 years) homebrewer invention. It is an attempt to recreate a flavor,  not an authentic procedure.

I’ve recently used the boil-down for a Brown Ale and I think it added some depth to the beer, but that’s anecdotal in the extreme.

As Denny says, my thought with boiling some wort down to a syrup here is to create a caramel flavor, maybe give some fullness…if that makes sense.  Whether this technique is historically accurate isn’t really a concern.

I’m not committed, just thought it might help.

This is going back a ways for me, but I seem to recall Scotrat’s Traquair House used a separate boil down to achieve a unique flavor similar to an invert gives some Brit styles.  But whether it does or not, I just don’t remember clearly, though I recall doing it at least once.  The real way I do recall for making a 60/- Scot ale was to take the second runnings of a wee heavy and adding a bit of DME to get the right OG.  I did that with a neighbor’s Wee Heavy that he was going to toss the grains on and it was quite good.  Partigyle essentially…

I tried the boil down approach once with a Scottish ale. It was a pain in the a$$ and I don’t think it added anything to the flavor. I’m not sure I boiled it down enough, but I did as much as I had the time and patience for. Now I just use Golden Promise with a bit of Special B and a bit of roasted barley.

+1  They are very straightforward recipes it seems.

Interesting.  I’m wondering why boiling some wort was such a PITA?  I did this a few months ago with a Brown Ale and it was just a matter of ladling out some mash and reducing it in a small pot.  The process gets started as the wort is coming to a boil and is finished long before the boil is over (for my 3-gal batches, that’s ≈ 48oz reduced to a syrupy 12, give or take).  I won’t argue the fact that it may not have added much to the flavor as I had nothing to compare it to, but I thought it did.  I’d happily try this again and I would think IF boiling down adds anything, it would show up in a simple 60/-.

I’m personally not a fan of Special B and honestly, I don’t see why a 60/- needs anything other than a Pale malt and a touch of roast. 2 grains, period.  Flaked Maize and Invert show up in Pattinson’s blog, but I don’t think either are necessary.  Does the flaked maize help put the “light” in the Scottish Light?  Personal preference, I suppose.

That’s what I was referring to. That was the first I heard of it.

As mentioned,  Scott came up,withheld boildown for a wee heavy. That’s where I use it and have found it definitely makes a difference. How much of a difference depends on how far you boil it down. It seems that I need at least a 4:1 reduction. I have never tried it for any other style because I don’t want that character in other beers.

Can you explain “that character”?  I was hoping to get a bit of caramel-like flavor from boiling down a small portion of a mash that is essentially Maris Otter.  Pipe dream?

I also do wonder if boiling-down a small portion of the mash is all that much different than just extending the main boil…from say 60 to 90 minutes??

It’d be nice if I could go to the distributor and pick up a few different 60 shillings to see what I’m really after.  Yeah, good luck with that.  Right now, I’m chasing the BJCP guidelines.  ;D

Caramel/toffee character is exactly what I get. I boil a gal down to less than a qt. Also seems to add some mouthfeel. I have found that boiling down less, so I end up with more than a qt., really decreases what I want from it. My experience with longer boils is that they don’t give me the same character as a boildown because they don’t concentrate the wort as much, or produce as intense Maillard reactions.