Vevor equipment

[TechBrew (Richard)]

@brewthru

I have no doubts of the source of many, or all, of the things we purchase. Nor am I fooling myself into believing something that is not. We all know communist China production standards (ha, ha, ha) are woefully lacking. We all should know they steal intellectual property and ideas.

In regards to the model trains, I mentioned in a prior post, the zinc was sworn/was contracted as uncontaminated/pure. However, after many problems happened, research was done, it was determined the zinc wasn’t as pure as promised. The zinc and other metals were contaminated with anything they threw in. Problem is either lack of quality assurance or deception.

OK, here’s a scenario. I contract with the commies to make me type 316 SS fermenters. They swear on their Mao books it’s type 316 SS. I receive a certificate attesting to the purity of the type 316 SS. I ask about lead in the fermenter. “No, no lead” and they give me a piece of paper attesting to the promise of no lead. They basically kiss my rear making all sorts of promises as they want the contract. I foolishly sign the contract.

Receive the fermenters. Sell them to homebrewers touting the 316 SS. After a while I’m hearing of problems with the SS. Now what? Legal action against a commie company? Right… Don’t do business with them again? They could probably care less. What about everyone whom bought, whom now has the defective SS fermenter? My business reputation is shot.

“Trust, but verify.” That goes for any company you do business with, especially where human health is involved.

[brewthru]

@richard

“Trust, but verify.” That goes for any company you do business with, especially where human health is involved.

Obsoletely. However, what if the commie company produces all sorts of credentials, testimonials, guarantees and they all turn out as lies?

I’ve vetted, done due diligence, etc, on home repairs, remodeling. Things are often NOT what they are presented.

[fredthecat]

@brewthru

@richard

“Trust, but verify.” That goes for any company you do business with, especially where human health is involved.

Obsoletely. However, what if the commie company produces all sorts of credentials, testimonials, guarantees and they all turn out as lies?

I’ve vetted, done due diligence, etc, on home repairs, remodeling. Things are often NOT what they are presented.

a lot of hyperbole and its simply getting political. #1 east asian “communism” is simply a label they have applied to what is actually a sort of nationalism with aspects of traditional confucian hierarchy and heavy bureaucracy. south korea is not “communist” but often enough acts in the same way where the government intervenes in private affairs because it can.

my experience on the other hand is that china had a lot of domestic and export quality control issues and intentional flaws from the 1980s to early 2010s but they have definitely clamped down on that a lot. it is a developing country, things arent static. currently we use product we know 100% are made in mainland china and they have been fully tested to meet conformance. regardless of this we still have customers who somewhat irrationally demand (maybe its just personal choice - which is fine) “all parts must be 100% made in north america”.

point being - things change, look at the manufacturing industry in mexico or vietnam compared to 30 years ago. theyre now producing a lot of vehicles.