Vitamin C in commercial beer

Curiosity compelled me to crack a can of Saint Feuillien the other day.
Regardless of what I thought of the beer (a commercial non-lager Belgian beer in a can! Which didn’t completely suck! but which wasn’t what I was craving either), I’m intrigued by the ingredients listed on the can.

Water, malted barley, hops, yeast, sugar. Nothing unconventional so far.

Vitamin C though…

The only reason I can think of why one would add ascorbic acid to a beer is to prevent oxidation. Which leads me to wonder why the hell Saint Feuillien would think their beers are so susceptible to oxidation they need a pre-emptive shot of vitamins to cure their beer-scurvy.

A non-CO2-counterpressured cannery maybe?

Asorbic acid is a powerful anti-oxidant. If used in low doses it is flavorless and will only minimally effect the pH. I have actually used it in homebrew before on beer I knew got oxidized to prolong the shelf life and it works.

Here’s another 2 cents: adding ascorbic acid to prolong the shelf life of a canned beer? Brewer’s doing something wrong is what I say.

I’ve seen some of these canning lines in action. The thinking that canning lines don’t pick up o2 is a myth, at least on the smaller ones. They may be less impervious to o2 pick up after sealing but many of them have a lot of o2 pick up during the operation. Perhaps it is something with their canning line.

Just speculation on my part. I have considered using asorbic acid to prolong shelf life on my bottled beers but didn’t want the label to say it has additives so I shelved it. Kind of like when budweisser experimented with cinnamon in the mash for the same purpose but didn’t want to disclose they used cinnamon in their beers.

I hear some of the new mobile canning operations have had oxidation problems and they don’t have the equipment to check oxygen in the packages beer either. It’s flying blind so an antioxidant would be good insurance.

Belgium brewers also use coriander often, and that is another antioxidant.

I bet if it was coriader they used, they’d stick to the old “Natural flavourings”. Or “Spices”. Never “Vitamin C” though.

Vitamin C is used as an antioxidant in sodas.  Oxidized vitamin C can leave a precipitate.

They could have used cinnamon following Charlie P’s recommendation.

Scurvy prevention…duh  :stuck_out_tongue:

Don’t forget Vitamin C that comes from citrus peel as well.

I use some ascorbic acid in all my IPAs and Pale ales.  It helps them retain that vibrant hop aroma and flavor longer imho.

This is something I’d like to test and it would be darn easy.  When do you add it, Dan?

I add to the receiving vessel after primary.  Be it “secondary” for dry hopping or the keg.  I add it first and let the transfer mix it in.

how much?

This^^^.  I’m gonna try it with a split batch and then do a blind triangle.

No kidding.  It’d be easy to add some to the bottom of a keg and rack on top. Gonna try it when I keg my next hoppy beer.

Hmm I’d have to look.  I just use the recommended amount on the bottle I have. I’ve never perceived any off flavors at that rate. I’ll dig it out a bit later and let you know.

1 tsp per 5 gallons.

Thanks, Dan.

what exactly is the point of c in your beer? stopping oxidation and or spoilage?