Weed killer detected in randomly selected beer & wine

[Joe_T]

@Visor

Interesting thread with a lot of valid concerns and reasoned observations, but love it of hate it, try for a moment to imagine the world if roundup was banned next week or year. We’d all probably lose that pesky beer belly cuz very few of us could afford to eat.

I get the impression Monsanto’s ultimate goal is to control the entire food supply and they seem to be constantly inching toward that goal. What would happen to prices then?

[wbaar2 (Wilbur)]

@Visor

Interesting thread with a lot of valid concerns and reasoned observations, but love it of hate it, try for a moment to imagine the world if roundup was banned next week or year. We’d all probably lose that pesky beer belly cuz very few of us could afford to eat.

I agree that GMO’s and agricultural industry has done a ton in terms of improving food availability, but there is a huge issue with roundup resistant/dicamba resistant/etc. crops. Drift is a huge issue, and can often be underestimated. Farmers feel pressured to buy herbicide resistant crops because their neighbors buy herbicide resistant crops and spray heavily, forcing more neighbors to adopt these crops.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2019/02/07/691979417/is-fear-driving-sales-of-dicamba-proof-soybeans
https://www.npr.org/2017/06/14/532879755/a-pesticide-a-pigweed-and-a-farmers-murder

I’m really excited to see how some of the aquaculture/hydroponic startups go. Fresh food year round, no need to use herbicides, local, no shipping. Now, if only we could reclaim some farmland as natural prairie or forest…

https://www.outsideonline.com/2389106/urban-organics-fix-food

[Lazy_Ant_Brewing]

@Visor

Interesting thread with a lot of valid concerns and reasoned observations, but love it of hate it, try for a moment to imagine the world if roundup was banned next week or year. We’d all probably lose that pesky beer belly cuz very few of us could afford to eat.

I agree that GMO’s and agricultural industry has done a ton in terms of improving food availability, but there is a huge issue with roundup resistant/dicamba resistant/etc. crops. Drift is a huge issue, and can often be underestimated. Farmers feel pressured to buy herbicide resistant crops because their neighbors buy herbicide resistant crops and spray heavily, forcing more neighbors to adopt these crops.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2019/02/07/691979417/is-fear-driving-sales-of-dicamba-proof-soybeans
https://www.npr.org/2017/06/14/532879755/a-pesticide-a-pigweed-and-a-farmers-murder

I’m really excited to see how some of the aquaculture/hydroponic startups go. Fresh food year round, no need to use herbicides, local, no shipping. Now, if only we could reclaim some farmland as natural prairie or forest…

https://www.outsideonline.com/2389106/urban-organics-fix-food

Land can be reclaimed to natural prairie and forest, but that requires someone giving up the use and likely the income from that land.  Would you like to be the first to volunteer to do that?

[denny]

Please, let’s keep this about beer.